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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Socialists fought for this shit, not Democrats.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Democrats in power are not really liberals either, they are neoliberals. And they are constitutionally opposed to any real sort of reform, or addressing the root causes of our problems. They will borrow money to spend on addressing some of the problems, but they were chosen to not undo the gains the rich have made, and indeed that the National Security state has made. They will not fix anything,

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Liberals are just against government control. It favours maintaining a system of private control rather than reforming it.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Part of the problem is that you can be a social libertarian (the government shouldn't tell me who I can/can't marry) or an economic libertarian (the government shouldn't tax me). Tending to one is mutually exclusive from tending to the other.

These are both spectrums as well not hard and fast rules. For example "I'm a man and I want to marry a man" is quite different from "I'm a man and I want to marry a 12 year old child" and "the government shouldn't tax poor people" (is the economic or social?) is quite different from "the government shouldn't tax anyone".

Given they are spectrums there should be a modicum of both of these ideas but as with anything, extremes are probably going to have extreme downsides.

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