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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 104 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

Damn. “TikTok would like to access WiFi”

We need new permissions for this shit. WiFi can do presence detection and now heart rate? What next? Eye tracking?

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 hours ago

Android throttles the hell out of WiFi requests since (I think) Android 9. You need to manually allow WiFi request spamming in developer options to let apps do something like determining location from it.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 52 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure applications can only send and receive data, with the finer details being handled by the OS.

But yes, there should be a specific permission to access biometric information.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 8 hours ago

Suddenly your new dishwasher sends your health protocols to your doc. The fancy toilet helped with a consistency analysis and your smart lamps add a sleeping protocol.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That makes sense. I assume these exotic ability’s require precise control of the radios. So, for now, until an API made, we should be safe.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 hours ago

"Google enters the chat"

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe not eye tracking, but probably head tracking.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Apps watch how we move/rotate devices to understand whether we’re walking, resting, lying down, etc., I assume? (The most popular apps I mean with large data teams)

Wish that stuff could be turned off unless it was e.g. a game that made legitimate use of the accelerometer.

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 5 points 14 hours ago

GrapheneOS does allow you to turn it off. It has a permission switch for your phone sensors. I don't know if there are other versions of android that allow the same.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

WiFi can also do pretty precise location. Bluetooth/BLE even more precise (inches or less)

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I think they mean without a phone. A 2.4ghz radio can be used as a presence detection radar.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

It sounds like they're specifically talking about a phone, making reference to app permissions and TikTok.