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[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I guess... But if your web presence is only on Facebook and that's the first result I see then .. hard pass

[–] dan@upvote.au 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Even for companies that have sites, they often get more people contacting them through social media instead of their site. Social media sites tend to have better SEO.

That's especially the case for younger people as they search Instagram and TikTok more than Google. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2024/03/11/genz-dumping-google-for-tiktok-instagram-as-social-search-wins/ ).

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

I understand this is a vector. I just find it a stupid one.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's my daily battle. I'm looking for something in my country, and there are these "businesses" that only show on Facebook or Instagram, both of which are entirely blocked at the network and device level in my house. So I'll never do business with them. If you don't have an actual web site with relevant information, I just keep looking.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Demanding a small business has their own website before you do business with them is peak Lemmy.

This site is way out of touch with what the typical person has the knowledge or time to do.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 4 points 22 hours ago

You're absolutely correct. Most of us in Lemmy are far from being typical, which is why I love it here.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're not wrong. Should it be different? Absolutely. Will it be different? Maybe someday in the distant future.

But ultimately what's most likely to happen is that the average person is going to keep pressing the dopamine buttons on their pocket rectangles and telling the world about every fart that exits their buttcheeks and if you don't do that you're going to get slowly pushed out of society in a similar way to the Amish or Mennonites.

It weirdly reminds me of the mark of the beast from the book of revelation. Apocalyptic literature does so well not because it predicts the future but because it follows the repeating patterns of the past. The world as humans know it has ended and been replaced by something new and utterly bizarre more times than history has recorded and will probably continue to do so more times than we can comprehend.

Each new version of humanity has people that get left behind, or alternatively, who refuse to submit to something horrible no matter how much bigger than them it is. It's a completely valid stance to take and one I will probably take myself but you do have to make peace with the fact that the rest of society is almost definitely going to pick the dopamine buttons over you.

If you can accept being disconnected, then by all means, live your best life. I'm certainly planning to (although it's also important to recognize that this is not a purely binary decision).

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 1 points 22 hours ago

I can say you've probably spoken for me in this post.

I'm old enough to be that guy that wants less people in his life. I'm fine with what little friends I have, my family and my dog's. The rest is noise, and I'll deal with it only if I want to, otherwise, there's plenty of animé, books and documentaries I can fill my solo time with, for the rest, I'll always have the main 3 I mentioned.

I guess I did turn into that "grumpy old guy" I 🤣🤣

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The silver lining of having friends that won't leave those platforms for nothing in the world is being able to interact with those businesses through them.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 points 23 hours ago

You're absolutely right. I also found that, by leaving those platforms, now I know who my real friends are. Back then it was all chat, social networks and no personal interaction as such. Today, we call each other regularly, get together way more often, and when we say "later man" it can mean any time when we call or meet again, so I get to go back to my own stuff without being constantly interrupted by people constantly sending memes or saying "hi" on some shit platform just to see how long I take to respond.

When I want to get my fill of what's going on in the things that do interest me, there's Lemmy, Mastodon, Nostr and actual news (many, so that I can decide what I believe in the media without following political inclinations).

I can honestly say that my mental health, and my life as a whole, has improved exponentially since I made this move. I also get to deal with BS like people trying to justify staying in some platforms, maybe rile them up a bit, and then move on without a care.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

But he has a website... He's just saying Facebook denied him additional exposure unfairly.