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[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 16 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Real question: how do you stop this?

I don't use wifi at all in my home but I live in an apartment and all my neighbours obviously do.

How in the hell do I stop this from getting into my home?

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Your neighbors WIFI signals are too weak to matter in this case. Even if they were strong enough, this is a receiver-transmitter setup, so it would still be impossible to do unless you connect to their network. Even then, they’d have to assume you’re the only person present between the transmitter and the receiver.

Presence detection through WIFI was already garbage enough, this one is plain unusable.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago

Wear an aluminum foil vest and a Faraday suit. Burn your computer after reading, I've said too much....

[–] TwoDogsFighting@lemmy.ml 32 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Turns out the tinfoil hat gang was right the whole time.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 11 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Innocuous radio signals are one thing but if my apartment is inundated with radio waves that can literally be used to track my movements and monitor my heartbeat, being forced to allow this is a perverse and sickening invasion of privacy.

[–] TwoDogsFighting@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 hours ago

If you think the lack of privacy is bad now, just wait till they use this to target done strikes. We're all in for super fun times.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, 20 people at a government agency are watching you watch Netflix and taking a shit.

[–] themagzuz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

the problem is that you don't need 20 people for this kind of thing. you can just kinda passively slurp the data up from every router and throw it into a machine learning model to be used by cops or sold to advertisers. you don't need a human in the loop anywhere and it's essentially impossible to opt out of

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Own the network. Run OSS.

That's about it.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 hours ago

"Howdy neighbour. Your wireless modem/router combo is mine now. Thxkbye"

[–] ronigami@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Put the house in a faraday cage?

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

With 6 ghz wifi you'd need a cage with a size of around 1mm irc.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

Copper mesh fabric.

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Foil is cheap enough and a good isolator for plenty of things.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

So if you don't want someone to measure your heartbeat and to physically know where you are at all times your only option is to cover your entire living area, including the windows, in aluminum foil?

I guess what I'm getting at here is that this situation is deeply, deeply fucked.