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[–] zd9@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (9 children)

To anyone reading this: Russian, Chinese, (even American) bots and agitators are astroturfing all over social media to get America to spin out into more violence. It's been well documented for almost a decade now. Please think about "who" (or what) is posting all these calls to violence.

Defending oneself from being attacked is different than actively committing violence unprovoked. Please just think about this. Having said all that, every American should still arm themselves and know how to use it.

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

State violence is still violence, so self defense still applies.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

There's a huge gray area there, so follow your local laws when in doubt.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's a lot of grey area there. I mean you personally or close family/friends being in illegal imminent danger of bodily harm, not just generally something you saw on social media that made you mad.

[–] colin@lemmy.uninsane.org 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I mean you personally or close family/friends being in illegal imminent danger of bodily harm, not just generally something you saw on social media that made you mad.

if social media oversamples for the number of people in imminent danger, what's your method to avoid undersampling? because outside of those who would trust you with their life and call on you to protect them, the people around you who fall into this category aren't going to just casually mention "i'm in danger from the state" for what I really hope should be obvious reasons.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

To avoid undersampling, look at what's happening in your local community. Be aware of shit going down, support those who need food, shelter, protection. And in cases where necessary (there's a huge decision making process at this point), use defensive force when legally able.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The state itself is structural, institutionalized violence. Resistance to an inherently violent system is never unprovoked

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I can't comment on calling for violence there for obvious reasons. I hope you actually go outside and experience things firsthand instead of just browsing social media.

[–] mech@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My post history should show I'm not a bot or agitator.

[–] Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

wanted to see whether your comments are horny Hot Fuzz screenshot

Incredibly based.

[–] doleo@lemmy.one 15 points 1 day ago

Defending oneself from being attacked is different than actively committing violence unprovoked.

You don't consider the provocation to be real? What part of being shot in the face could be misinterpreted?

At some point it's just self defence.

-Good

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 10 points 1 day ago

If there's no legal method to oppose all the unlawful shit the administration is doing violence is all that's left. Democrats need to get off their asses and start doing something or shit is going to hit the fan. It's not like any of Trump's goons have a problem being violent or killing people.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well the rest of the world wanted the us population to learn from the 2016-2020 idiots first term, but instead they said "Fuck you, cunts. Lol" and then the majority of them either voted for that thing, or enabled it by not voting or protest voting. So that option is off the table.

Trying to appease the orange paedo does fuck all because he's basically a schoolyard bully. Give him an inch and he'll then rape your daughter then blame you for doing it. So the appeasement option is off the table.

There's absolutely no chance any fucker over there has the spine to bring him to justice. So that option is off the table.

The fact is the obese imbecile is so demented and broken that nothing will work.
When something is broken you either fix it, which is impossible. Or get rid of it...which is where we are now.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That's why the Epstein files are such a big deal and are really getting to him. He knows that's the one thing that will cause enough of his base to leave him, then he would be outta there. That's the best legal option America has.

Midterms are going to be rigged/canceled/whatever so I have low expectations for that.

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree. Violent rhetoric needs to stop. Guns, just like nukes, should be used primarily only for deterrence.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What exactly are they deterring?

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Armed peaceful protests deter jack-booted cops like ICE from doing whatever they want. Nukes deter countries from getting invaded by their aggressive neighbors. Is this a serious question or are you being ignorant?