this post was submitted on 05 Feb 2026
369 points (86.7% liked)

Memes

54323 readers
429 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (19 children)

Can you enlighten us as to how China is authoritarian in a way that Europe isn't? Because as far as I can tell, even if literally every single thing China is accused of by anyone is true, this is what their major crimes amount to:

  • Killing 10,000 protesters in Tiananmen Square
  • Imprisoning 1M Uighurs in Xinjiang
  • Sterilizing, abusing, and killing some number of Uighurs in Xinjiang, I've never seen numbers accompanying this claim
  • Suppressing Tibetan religious identity
  • Lack of queer rights
  • Not respecting Taiwan's sovereignty
  • Suppressing political speech that goes against the government
  • General religious persecution of several religious minorities other than those mentioned above; Falun Gong, Christians, other Muslims, etc
  • Aggression toward their neighbors like India and the Philippines
  • Support of Russia during their invasion of Ukraine
  • Support of Myanmar during the Rohingya genocide

Let me know if I missed any.

Meanwhile, (mainly Western) Europe definitely has done the following in the past 50 years:

  • Funded and supported Israel's genocide in Gaza, killing anywhere from 50,000 people per the Health Ministry to 500,000 per Donald Trump
  • Mostly refused to recognize a Palestinian state until quite recently
  • Exploited peripheral European states economically
  • Continued to hold assets belonging to former colonies in the Global South
  • Collaborated with the US to destroy the USSR and strip it for parts, causing one of the largest peace-time drop in life expectancy in history, and unleashing rampant economic and sexual exploitation
  • Allow thousands of immigrants to die in the Mediterranean to prevent them from reaching the continent.
  • Joined the US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan
  • Joined NATO actions to destroy the Libyan government, leaving the country in a state of utter chaos and making it one of the only places on earth with open air slave markets
  • NATO actions against Yugoslavia and Serbia (granted, to intervene in a genocide, but in a way that was not done to intervene in the Rwandan genocide; this suggests the intervention was primarily motivated by an extractive, imperialist interest)
  • Islamophobia; Hijab bans, rampant hate speech, racially stratified economies.
  • Backsliding queer rights in some countries, total lack in others.

I think there's probably more I could go into, but I think that's at least enough to make my case. If you want to believe China is authoritarian because you believe every point in the upper half is true, then I won't stop you. But you're on some craaaazy wypipo logic if you think the points in the bottom don't mean that the same label ought to be applied to Europe.

load more comments (14 replies)