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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 117 points 1 week ago (5 children)

More like about 10,000 years ago when humans started farming and agriculture to grow crops at scale to make bread ... then at about the same time they domesticated cows in order to harvest milk and figure out how to make and store butter.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The earliest known bread recipe dates back approximately 14,500 years, discovered in a stone fireplace at a site in northeastern Jordan, where charred remains of a pita-like flatbread were found.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 63 points 1 week ago (1 children)

where charred remains of a pita-like flatbread were found

Man, it must have been hella stale by then.

[–] Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nothing a little water and microwave can't fix

[–] siha@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

Just gotta put a glass of water next to it

[–] TeNppa@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

And "only" 5000 years if you count when people started using yeast for bread production, since the bread ain't the same without yeast.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Behold! The bread hierarchy!

Flour + water = hardtack

Flour + water + yeast = bread

Flour + water + yeast + butter = toast

Flour + water + leavener + butter + sugar = muffin

Flour + water + leavener + butter + sugar + eggs = cake

Flour + water + leavener + butter + sugar + eggs + chocolate = brownie

Flour + water + leavener + butter + sugar + eggs + chocolate + cream = cupcake

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Flour + water = hardtack

clack clack

:D

[–] linkinkampf19@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's pretty hard not to use yeast. It's everywhere and if you wait long it enough it'll start to ferment. Look at what some Orthodox Jews go through to make unleavened bread.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are plenty of bread without yeast.

[–] TeNppa@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

Yes there are, but the one in the picture clearly was made with yeast.

[–] ShamanRonin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

We gatekeeping bread now?

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pre-agricultural humans did still have access to flour and milk though.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But what did they milk to make butter?

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

I know this, and you know this. Shh. Don't ruin the meme

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 39 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I could make bread right now. But I just want to eat bread right now. I don't wanna wait for it to rise and cook 😩

[–] Swaus01@piefed.social 28 points 1 week ago

I guarantee you will still want to eat some bread later, and you'll even thank your past self for making the bread

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As an USAmerican. The absolute travesty that we sell in the grocery store is one of the worst crimes against humanity.

I want to live in world where we're all walking distance from a bakery that makes real bread daily.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I'm also from the US and my grocery store sells pretty solid breads. I also have solid French and Italian bakeries walking distance from my house. I also live in the suburbs.

Some people only have Dollar General.

US very big and very varied. So I'm from Jersey, if that helps, because I think it's important to be specific. We have great bread, great bagels, great pizza and for this I am very thankful.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

do your grocery stores not all have bakeries in house, too?

like, I get that Walmart and the like can price out local bakeries, and then sell you shit "fresh" bread instead once they've forced the local small businesses to close. but it's better than the stuff that never moulds, yeah?

[–] adminofoz@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Walmart baked in house bread is close to the never molds variety. It uses modern GMO wheat with added preservatives and shortcut chemicals to reduce prep time from days to hours. Not to mention added sugars. Defending it would be like defending Subways "fresh baked bread" which isn't even legally allowed to be called bread in certain European countries. At one point they were caught putting the stuff in foam yoga mats in their bread.

In my opinion, that "bread" is a very distant cousin of homemade sourdough spelt (or whatever locally sourced whole grains was available) traditional known as bread.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago

Super Walmarts and Neighborhood Markets actually have bakeries and make real bread, too.

[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 6 points 1 week ago

Do you think people in other countries make their own bread? 🤨

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bread remains one of the cheapest foods. Get some frozen bread, rinse it quickly with water, then bake it.

As good as fresh, dirt cheap, and you don't have to bake.

[–] 69420@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...then bake it.

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...you don't have to bake.

🤔

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

-_-

When I say bake the second time, I mean reheat in the oven, not literally bake

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Dunno where you're at but Trader Joe's sells these half-baked breads, so you just pop it in the oven and bring it over the finish line. They're honestly not half bad, and you get freshly baked bread.

[–] DonEladio@feddit.org 17 points 1 week ago
[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And then for some of us, our bodies are like, "lol you've had enough of this. Now even just crumbs will fuck you up for a week or more." It was a good run.

[–] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

F for respects (seriously, hope i never feel your pain, have known some with it too)

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Thanks for the meal inspo OP

I think I'll go and make this right now

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I love dipping that in some Zatar dip. I basically add a bit of olive oild to a small dish, then salt to taste a bunch of zatar, mix then dip away!!!

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] GeorgimusPrime@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

This is how the Britishpronounced it after drinking all the T

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's "bread and butter" but with some silly on it. Not a real word lol

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Could have been swedish or something, lol.

[–] nailbar@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Not enough umlauts

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s smörebröd in Swedish, I think.

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just made some homemade butter by accident and it fucking slaps so hard

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No wonder. You slapped it first to get butter. SCNR

But for real. Fresh homemade food usually tastes better than store-bought food.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Slapping cream into butter is some karate kid shit

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