Mfw the rest of the world just has bank transfers
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nearly every bank in the US uses Zelle which lets you send money to another persons account with no fees, just using their phone number. for some reason people just prefer to use stupid shit like venmo.
But it's a fucking 3rd party app that skims. Nothing in the USA is just straight forward. There's always someone making a buck off of your service.
Saunt Neal Stephenson predicted this and so it has come to pass.
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Nearly....but some don't. And that is the problem. Other countries have bank transfer figured out and not dependent on voluntary adoption from a 3rd party service. I was very surprised when I learned how behind the US is on banking, even compared with some "3rd word" countries.
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Working at Walgreens the amount of fuckers with apparently tons of money needing to load their chime or cashapp is fucking insane. Like do you dumbfucks not have bank accounts.
By their appearance I am convinced its all drug addicts or drug dealers. But it is insane. I only thought cashapp was kids or I have used it for Facebook market.
It just shocks me the amount of people using these things as their main source of storing money. Like my ex who uses Paypal.
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The evil trinity of American excellence:
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Healthcare System
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Banking System
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Temperature Units
I didn't know just how fucked up it all was until I moved to Canada.
Also:
- Car dependency
- Tax filing companies
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I pull out a crisp $5 bill from my wallet and hand it directly to the other person.
I call it HumanPay.
I don’t want to touch that fake ass poop paper
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Actual question: why don't Americans just transfer money using a normal baning app? I just have to open the app of my bank. Enter the IBAN, name and amount, confirm and the money will be sent pretty fast. No need for either party to use any third party app.
We don’t have IBAN. Worse, we have routing and account numbers that CAN be used for an ACH transfer but many banks are disabling this functionality on personal accounts because people kept falling for scams.
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American banks use ACH, and requires both a routing number (a bank identifier) and the account number.
But theres a reason to prefer a transaction service over direct ACH. And that is settlement time. A service like zelle, the transaction is done in real time as in the money will appear in your account within an hour. But ACH does batch settlements, and that can take up to 3 days (though its ussually a day) before the money appears in your account.
Europe manages it instantly, or in rare cases that I've never seen in under 10 seconds. Honestly, three days is sad, its 2025, do they print it and put the boxes on a plane?
They transfer nightly xml files over FTP. It’s a whole thing.
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This is madness. Im Australian banking with CBA (a popular bank) and I can send 20k to my mum's bank account at ANZ (another big bank) and she receives it in her account in 30 seconds or less.
We even have a thing called PayID which links your account deets to a mobile number or email address, and so if I go out to dinner with friends and we want to split the bill, I just tell them to PayID my mobile number and I get it within 30 seconds, no 3rd party FinTech required.
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Second time I've heard about taler in two months. A new record. I'd have to look into it again, but I can say is that if it soceeds, I hope it brings gnunet with it (except gns. It sucks and doesn't make sense
Floorp is actually my browser of choice, it’s kind of like the Vivaldi of firefox
I accidentally floorped my underwear the other day when I sneezed too hard.
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Serious question to Americans: why don't you pay your friends in cash instead of dealing with this bullshit?
I do. It's literally the only reason I carry cash around. I'm not comfortable banking on my phone.
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Too bad there's never been some sort of federated infrastructure for managing monetary transactions. It would be an awesome thing if it existed, and people definitely wouldn't just naively bandwagon against it and simply call it a scam if it did.
There is, it's called SEPA instant payment, and every single bank uses it. The tiny catch is that you have to be in Europe for it.
Also called payid. Instant payment, every single bank supports it, can register your phone number, email address, business number to your account so anyone with one of the Jose details can pay you. Tiny catch is you have to be in Australia
Also called Pix. Instant payment, every single bank supports it, can register your phone number, email address, business number or get a random key to your account so anyone with one of the those details can pay you. Tiny catch is you have to be in Brazil (Btw I heard we are exporting it to other countries)
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I'm harping on my friends to set up autodeposit. There is no reason to manually accept money, just let people give you money when they want.
If you need to log in, it's because you are giving somebody money. Way harder for people to scam if that's the case for everybody.
I do like that banking apps warn you that your payment might be a scam, but the number one rule I have after 25 years in computers is that nobody reads anything. Ever.
If they've opened that app and it's a scam then they're getting scammed. No amount of scary messages is going to stop that. They think the FBI takes iTunes vouchers ffs.
It can be paid over Poob. Poob pays it for you.
paid over Boob
At first I misread it this way, and I was like "ah yes, the world's oldest payment system"
I can see the memetic advertisement by now! "Tested with ur mom", etc.
Laughs in PIX
Visa and mastercard are actively trying to shut pix down, fuck those guys, I only use pix now
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Easier to just give your friend a BJ and call it even. Several if it’s a big bill.
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You think Canada's approach is better?! TELL CARNEY. The government's push for Open Banking and increased fintechs is literally them wanting to bring in all these nonsense variant fintech apps... for reasons unknown.
How much of this stuff is made up? I know Venmo is real, but a lot of the rest sounds like parody names.
Everything after Zelle is made up
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Just use a bank? Why all these regulation dodging strange alternatives. Most banks even do email/mobile/tap transfers these days.
My guess is that USAian banks charge stupid fees for any sort of transfer between different banks
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