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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Proton drive on Linux

[–] nagaram@startrek.website 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I actually just want them to make proton drive work on Linux. That's all I need.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I comment this on many of their LinkedIn posts. I think they've blocked me at this point

[–] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People still use LinkedIn? I thought it was just ai bots using LinkedIn.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I love these posts on LinkedIn. Tbh I love the similar serious posts too singe they're so unhinged 

[–] saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I was abducted by pirates and this is what I learned about executive leadership.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 21 hours ago

You've read Caesar's works too??

[–] bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Holy shit, just give me shareable calendars!

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Or searchable email bodies...on my phone. Which is where I'd need it most.

[–] Mavytan@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They have those... Currently limited to the web app

[–] SillyMe@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

well great, now they're just gonna sheet all over the place.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

I used to think they would Excel.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

proton isn’t your friend I keep seeing people recommend protonmail like it’s some kind of activist infrastructure and it’s starting to bug me remember in 2021 when they handed over a french climate activist’s IP to the cops? swiss court order, data went through europol, person got arrested. this was while their website was still implying they couldn’t log you. they quietly changed the wording after they got caught and like… switzerland isn’t what people think it is. they have treaties with the US and EU, they share intelligence, their whole “neutrality” thing has always been about protecting money, not people. ask any dictator who parked their cash there also proton took VC money. it’s not a co-op, it’s not worker owned, it’s a company that sells privacy as a product. which means eventually the investors are going to want their returns and something’s gotta give none of this means “don’t use it” - it’s still better than google. but e2ee doesn’t hide metadata and metadata is often enough. your threat model matters. a corporation is not going to protect you from the state, ever

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Nobody is your friend... but at least proton isnt logging your data and selling ads into your inbox.... that's good enough for me...

Check your threat model... 90% of people arent doing direct action that needs protection from nation states.... and proton isnt big enough to protect you from nation states. (pretty sure they tell you that they have to comply with legal, swiss laws)

Stop trying to scare people into going back to gmail.... there will always be flaws in proton/tuta/whatever mail service....

Go try running your own email if you truly need perfect privacy and anonymity

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

100% agree with your take.

Why scare people looking to ditch google with stupid stuff like "but they complied with the government", bruh google complies with anyone who has their wallet in-hand.

ProtonMail is a free inbox and is privacy friendly. Yes there are other options, but this isn't a bad one by any means.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (5 children)

a group called Youth for Climate was doing direct action in paris - occupying empty buildings near Place Sainte-Marthe to protest gentrification and airbnb bullshit. pretty standard stuff. they used a protonmail address to coordinate french cops wanted to know who was behind the email. proton is swiss so france couldnt just demand it. so they went thru europol, who asked swiss authorities, who then issued a court order to proton heres the part that matters: proton wasnt already logging this persons IP. the swiss court ordered them to start logging it. proton complied, collected the IP going forward, and handed it over. activist got arrested. charges were trespassing, theft, property damage protons response was basically “we had no choice, swiss law, we support activists but cant break the law for you.” they also quietly edited their website - it used to say “we do not keep any IP logs which can be linked to your anonymous email account.” now it doesnt say that the CEO said they didnt even know it was about climate activists when they got the order. which… okay? thats not really the defense you think it is my guy the takeaway: • proton can be legally compelled to start logging you specifically • swiss “privacy” folds when another country wants you bad enough • encrytpion doesnt protect metadata • if your doing anything that might piss off a state, use tor. proton even says this themselvs now

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[–] freeman@feddit.org 43 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Good luck.

If Excel ever gets replaced, then we know that we overcame Microsoft.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

I'm actually pretty excited to have another product to try to motivate friends and family to leave Google behind. Maybe this will do it.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ve managed entirely on Google Sheets for years now. And I was a really big fan of Excel. It was never viable for me to rely on Windows to be everywhere I need to be, and the functionality gap closed steadily over the years to the point where the benefits of it being on the web now overwhelm the feature gap. Being free helps too, especially as Excel has gone through various pricing and bundling contortions over the years. Someone might tell me here that it’s now completely free but can I really be blamed for tuning out Microsoft years ago?

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[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Why don't they fork Onlyoffice for this?

that's what cryptpad.fr does

[–] gtr@programming.dev 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

With all these web based office suites popping up, I wonder if anybody needs these? It seems like a solution pushed onto us that nobody asked for. Everybody I know is still using MS Office or Libreoffice and everybody seems to agree that office on mobile devices sucks.

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 day ago

Real-time collaboration is fairly useful, you can have a videocall or meeting while discussing changes to a document and making them together

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I've been wanting a sheets alternative and I really do not like libre office. This is huge

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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Did proton fire Andy yet? Fucking Nazi bootlicker

[–] goldenquetzal@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Yes!! I remember submitting feedback about this being a must have feature ages ago. Excited to get it

[–] sunbeam60@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Does if have FILTER, array formulas, spill zones, MAP, data tables, query engines, SQL engine etc etc?

To compete with Word: Easy. To compete with Excel: Very, very difficult (pretty much only Google Sheets have managed).

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

They should have forked Onlyoffice, however I appreciate the effort to make their own from scratch.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

90% of users probably just need a glorified table with SUM

[–] sunbeam60@feddit.uk 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

In a personal context, agreed. In a business context, I completely disagree. Analysts, finance, operations etc all have much more complex requirements.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Of course. But you have to start somewhere.

[–] sunbeam60@feddit.uk 1 points 21 hours ago

Point taken. Thank you for the reminder. I was probably being harsh. Appreciate the feedback.

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[–] user@startrek.website 9 points 1 day ago

Good news! Unfortunately I'm not sold on having to have a bridge to access their email using Thinderbird, so I'm not subscribing Proton Unlimited "suite". Also no working Linux client for Proton Drive (rclone's is unmaintained and not working).

[–] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

this ia cool, but when proton tasks and proton notes

pretty sure you can use docs for notes.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Proton Glass, please?

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Amazing! I don't even remember seeing this on their road map. Caught me completely by surprise

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