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[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

What if they all use it 'wrong' but all use it differently?

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

My pet peeve is 'loose' being used when 'lose' is intended. It's so common now it might as well be the new spelling but I will die on this hill. I've had people comment in response to me correcting someone like I'm being ridiculous. Feels like I'm taking crazy pills!

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

I seen that all the time.

[–] fadhl3y@feddit.uk 5 points 6 hours ago

I think we should bring back philosohoraptor - Morpheus seems wrong for this meme

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 3 points 8 hours ago

Prescriptivists should be shoved into all the lockers in the world.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

classic case of the four-leaved-clover story

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 14 points 12 hours ago

If it's only morons that use it "wrong", then it does indeed become right, but still gains the added subtext of "by the way I'm also a moron"

[–] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 14 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

So I should accept people saying "could care less" when they mean the exact opposite? Not sure I can do that.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

Irregardless, you can still make fun of people for anything. Remember the US president and that disabled guy?

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Idioms don't have to (and often don't) make sense. How do you feel about "head over heels"?

[–] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 4 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Interesting - Wiktionary says that the phrase was originally "heels over head", which makes sense when conveying the sense of tumbling over. I guess that became corrupted, resulting in "head over heels". Maybe I should start saying "heels over head" then.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 5 points 10 hours ago

Consider the distinction between accurate and efficient. If your way of speaking becomes technically correct by some standard, but inefficient for the purpose of communication, is that really a desirable outcome? Does it have to be perfect, or just good enough to convey thoughts?

[–] chrizzly@feddit.org 3 points 10 hours ago

Now reading it, I never directly realized it being this (wrong) way in the english language. In German the equivalent term would be "Hals über Kopf" (Neck over head) which made sense for a feeling of the world being upside down. Funny that in English it is actually the "normal" worldview - at least how the modern expression goes.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

I mean, the main point is that language doesn't have to make "logical" sense. It's not a math problem. Just look at all the inconsistencies in pretty much every aspect of a language. It's all there simply because of history and people agreeing on meanings for words and phrases. For example, you've got something like prepositions. There's literally zero logical reason why we talk or speak to someone, but we don't tell or converse to someone.

And people who are more rigid in thinking about language always seem to think the language they learned growing up is the most "correct" version, whether that has a basis in history or not. Like even though literally has been used as an intensifier for (literally) hundreds of years, that seems to be a sticking point, whereas something like very, which has a similar root (veracis meaning truth), any sentence using very doesn't have to have an exact truthful meaning.

Hell, once we go back to "original" meanings of words, where do we stop? The singular use of "they" is older than that of singular "you", but I somehow never see the "singular they is confusing" crowd advocating for a return to thee/thou.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 1 points 10 hours ago

It's still "Hals über Kopf" (neck over head) in German.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

People need to start saying "God be whit ye!" again instead of "Goodbye" which IMO has nothing to do our Lord and Father in Heaven

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Well I could care less if can't do that

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago

And I'm still gonna bitch about it if they've reduced the usefulness of a word due to habitual misuse!

[–] qualia@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Descriptive language >> prescriptive language

descriptive linguistics >> prescriptive linguistics

[–] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (8 children)

For all intensive purposes, the meaning of words matters less than how we use it. Irregardless of how we decimate it's meaning, so long as we get the point across there is no need to nip it in the butt. Most people could care less.

[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 minutes ago

Definately!

[–] 2xar@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

I hate you.

[–] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 9 points 16 hours ago

I will hunt you for sport.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 12 hours ago

I guess it’s a moot point

[–] RamSwamson@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 16 hours ago

I'm filled with unreasonable blind rage now. Thank you.

[–] Candice_the_elephant@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

For all intensive purposes, the meaning of words matters less than how we use it.

I think you mean fewer than how we use it lol.

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[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 points 10 hours ago

Just realised there's a gun pointed to Neo's head in both images

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't see the backside of Morpheus' head.
Should look like that:

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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Well. Sort of.

Some terminology is better defined by how the relevant experts use it. It's singular and precise definition is required for any useful dialogue. If 99% of people call a kidney a liver but doctors call it a kidney its a kidney.

Some terminology evolves and is used differently by different groups. Sometimes the more illiterate group flattens the language by removing nuance or even entirely removing a concept from a language with no replacement. Arguably both definitions may be common usage but one is worse and using it means you are.

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