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[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 16 points 2 hours ago

Timecop, the Van Damme movie, predicted a future US would have a White Nationalist Party. But they only predicted it would get 5% of the vote.

I've decided to stop referring to them as Republicans. From now on I'm just referring to them as Confederates. There's no distinction whatsoever between the two. Their goal is a 21st century CSA.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago

Another fucking traitor

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

This isn't "full mask-off white nationalist". This is regular dog-whistle white nationalist.

[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 22 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Eric Schmitt is a piece of shitt.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Every single republican is a vile traitor and should be dealt with accordingly.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

Including most national Democrats

[–] iamanurd@midwest.social 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] iamanurd@midwest.social -1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck white nationalists, but this article seems like a sensationalist headline with little actual backing. They don’t give a full quote of a single sentence of his speech, and seem to take a lot of liberties connecting the dots. I don’t know anything about this guy, and he may well be a piece of shit, but I don’t trust this style of reporting.

This year, Schmitt, a sitting senator, outdid them both. Schmitt opened by reiterating the antisemitic tropes of his senior colleague. America is threatened by the “elites,” he declared, “who rule everywhere but are not truly from anywhere.” This is the “rootless cosmopolitan” trope at the heart of modern antisemitism. They serve “global liberalism” and “global capital” and support mass migration, he continued, a nod to the “great replacement” theory, which blames Jews for replacing white Americans with nonwhite immigrants.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The white Europeans who settled America and conquered the West “believed they were forging a nation—a homeland for themselves and their descendants,” he said. “They fought, they bled, they struggled, they died for us. They built this country for us. America, in all its glory, is their gift to us, handed down across the generations. It belongs to us. It’s our birthright, our heritage, our destiny. If America is everything and everyone, then it is nothing and no one at all. But we know that’s not true. America is not a ‘universal nation.’ ”

I dont think there is a lot to interpret here...

[–] iamanurd@midwest.social 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Give me a full quote… all I’m saying. There’s not a single sentence.

Edit: my bad, I just realized your quote was the one full quote in the article that I’d missed. Lack of coffee. Still, a whole lot of editorializing around a bunch of partial quotes.

And again, fuck white nationalists.

[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

I wish you weren't getting down voted for this. The free-mixing of partial quotes with editorial interpretation in the same sentence is egregiously misleading. Yes, this is a white nationalist dog whistle speech. Print it, then explain the rhetoric. Putting words in his mouth only invites rejection for bias, and, in this case, rejection is justified.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 3 points 3 hours ago

Yeah so he's still dog whistling at it. Hate to see it but it's not really mask off

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 22 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I find it more upsetting that this publication acts as if this is the first time this is ever happened. worse, that the people of this country actually think that this is the first time this has ever happened in the United States.

It isn’t. This is the fourth or fifth time this has happened here.

How could anyone possibly be surprised by this? How fucking stupid are you?

When the electorate becomes lazy and complacent, fascism will always try to take hold. “The people” have no one to blame but themselves. Ourselves.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Agreed. It's time for reckoning by the voters, instead of more blaming the system/ politicians/ lack of good candidates. The system did as it always did, and dumb, lazy voters and virtue signaling sitouts got trump back into office.

Edit: brain fart word

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 79 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus fucking Christ. These pieces of shit are really feeling emboldened now, like there's not going to be any opposition to stop them. We need to make fucking sure these pieces of shit are left cowering in their homes, and afraid to be out in society. Removed from the herd.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately half the US agrees with him and the other half is a bunch of pants-pissing cowards.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 9 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

No. Its about 30%. Too damn high, but it is not half

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You know what? It doesn’t matter. It could be 5 percent and it wouldn’t make a lick of difference if the rest of your country sits there with its thumbs up it’s asses and allows it.

If it’s 30% and not 50? Great- the rest of you look even WORSE for not dealing with it. Get off your sofas and start ensuring these people don’t feel safe leaving their homes.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Volunteer with your state and local democrats to help remove GOP scum like Eric Schmitt

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not my country, guy. We’ve been telling you for decades this was going to happen. I’m sure it will be our problem soon enough, but for now this is on you.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I often like to frame comment replies as being for whoever reads them rather than for the previous comment in the chain.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Fair. I get too many dumbass replies from overly-defensive whiny white liberals assuming I’m American.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 0 points 2 hours ago

What about him?

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not being bothered to show up and vote against them seems like they agree to some extent.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

The US doesn't a democracy. Its rare for people's votes to lead to positive outcome.

People should vote, but they MUST do direct action to bring about positive change, especially for fighting systemic & entrenched racism. That's more important

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry that taxing and auditing the rich, getting paid sick leave to railroad workers, expanding healthcare coverage to millions of americans, keeping literal nazis who set up illegal tents and cages out of power, etc aren't "positive outcome" to you.

Just so we're clear, everything happening right now is happening because millions less people voted in 2024 than in 2020.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 hours ago

No, it’s happening because you let the wrong people be armed to the teeth.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

30% backing a fascist government as the floor is pretty fucking awful. That doesn’t leave a lot of room for the shitty normal conservatives or the centrists who are so terrified to actually have a stance that they’ll fight people with a strong opinion before they fight a fascist.

Absolutely half, maybe more even, are the kind of people who will either cause the problem or do nothing to stop it or even try to tell the good people that they’re being dramatic because they don’t want to face the fact their country is a broken mess.

[–] Nobody@anarchist.nexus 47 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

A lot of the founding concepts of the US from the Declaration of Independence were inspired by earlier native treaties among indigenous nations. Even the highest ideals the US was created to strive for had roots in Native American ideologies.

The entire concept as a nation for over two centuries has been to take in immigrants from everywhere and create a melting pot culture where everyone makes new lives together.

The idea that the US is a white ethnostate is staggeringly ignorant of both history and present reality.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 13 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Where are you bringing this rose colored glasses history of the US from? I mean, that’s a wonderful ideal but ignores a lot of very bloody, violent and horrific suffering of native Americans and black Americans history. As well as the tremendous suffering of many earlier immigrant groups like German and Irish Catholics. Our kids literally died in factories and mines following fantasies like that.

When I hear this propoganda it always makes me think of the Don Bluth film American Tale. They flee the pogroms and sing on the boat over, “there are no Cats in America and the streets are paved with cheese!” Of course, there were cats in America and oppression and poverty and orphans on every corner. As soon as they ran out of one group to exploit they would ship in another and turn them on the new group.

One of my early grade school memories was standing on an island in the Wisconsin River with my classmates learning about how they mass murdered children like me. They were surrendering. They opened fire and killed hundreds of innocents. I don’t think their treatise were very inspiring while the river ran red with their children’s blood. Then we all moved in and built our barns on top of their burial mounds because it was the high ground on the property. Let our dairy cows shit on their ancestors for generations. Remember kids, always sign papers with the white man government.

It’s also absolutely not a mistake that Texas is as racist and horrific as it is and that you see many white Texans running to colonize Israel now. They were sent to Texas to mass murder the Mexican population and overtake the land from the people who lived there even before it was “won” in the “war”. A lot of Irish immigrants partook in it too because it was one of the only ways to raise their social class. Which you also see with the iconic Buffalo soldiers who were black men sent to genocide the Native American population after the civil war to raise their social status as freemen.

I’m primarily bohemian-Czech and German Catholic descent and many of the people from my demographic now live to step on the newest batch of immigrants. That’s the only tried and true American tradition. You even see it with the Cubans in Florida today. They saw themselves as different from other Latino groups because they were established. Germans once beat on the Irish because they were in competition and both beat on the blacks. Labor history is full of these stories. But you also saw them intermarry a lot because they were all on the bottom of someone else’s shoe.

The US was NEVER designed to be a melting pot. It was designed to be a land grab for resources and to exploit various groups of immigrants to make a profit. I mean look out West what they did to Chinese immigrants. They would hang them from cliffs to mine, if they fell asleep they cut their ropes letting them fall to their deaths. And the horrors of the railroads are too numerous to name here.

It’s always been a few rich white protestant families exploiting the newest off the boat group. I love the fantasy of the melting pot because that’s what it should be today. There are a lot of white Americans who are jumping on the bandwagon thinking they’re included in a group they aren’t because WWII Nazism raised their social status in the US. That’s why you see a lot of the poor white immigrants’ descendants clinging to it because it affords them a class they’re locked out of as Germans, Irish, Polacks, Norwegians, Italians or just poor southern European-mutt whites etc. The only prerequisite is that you’re white presenting, a vast “improvement” for those groups that were normally divided by religion, origin, etc. So maybe that’s your melting pot?

The entire US system is designed to exploit immigrants for profit. It was never to “build a great nation together and sing kumbaya my lord into the sunset” as some great bastion of diversity (over the mass graves of native, Mexican and blacks of course). This land is drenched in blood and pain. Don’t erase that or you’re not better than the “ban critical race theory” or the “I don’t see color” folks.

You can’t rewrite the future with lies. You need to hold space for the truth if you ever hope to deconstruct it and build something better. Let’s make that melting pot fantasy a reality but in order to do that you need to first look very seriously at the real current reality. You’re not going to strike down white Christian nationalists by regurgitating their own sanitized version of history. You need to understand where they were born from and what motivates them if you ever want to defeat them.

The entire concept as a nation for over two centuries has been to take in immigrants from everywhere and create a melting pot culture where everyone makes new lives together.

Tell that to the chinese and irish workers doing railroad construction. The native americans that were (and still are!) genocided. All the africans that were brought in as slaves to replace the enslaved native population because it is easier to control foreigners in a strange land than the people that lived there for millenia. Immigration were from the colonizers country (France and England), and other nations were only allowed (or forcibly brought) in for cheap labor.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Leave it to Eric Schmitt to be staggeringly ignorant, thats his expertise.

When this piece of shit was the MO AG he did literally nothing for the people of the state whatsoever. I once met him in his office during a tour of the capital, and he said that the only issue anyone cared about was robocalls. Just robocalls. As if there werent a million and one things he could have actually been trying to tackle to improve the lives of Missourians. The guy is not only a racist piece of shit that should be strung up by the toes, hes also incredibly and unfathomably stupid

Ill never forget how pissed he looked while I drank coffee out of his personal Truman State mug, that his own dumbass deputy poured for me, while I pushed back on the shit spewing out of his mouth. He was pissed and it was truly a glorious experience

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 hours ago

JD Vance recently said the exact same thing.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

On Nov. 19, 1863, Abraham Lincoln delivered one of the greatest speeches in American history, the Gettysburg Address. It opened “Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.”

It was conceived in genocide.

And Lincoln gave a speech a few years before that where he said that white people are the superior race to the inferior race of black people. Dude was a horrific white supremacist

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 7 points 2 hours ago

People change. Lincoln's views changed. We can't know his mind fully but you present only a snapshot in time.

https://www.rbhayes.org/hayes/lincoln-s-evolving-racial-views/

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Right? People keep thinking Lincoln was some kind of friend to black people but he had his general investigate if he could ship them all back to Africa after the civil war. The response was "We can't beat their replacement rate", and that's how that plan died. He never viewed white people as equal to black people otherwise he would have done a lot more than fight a war against a secession...

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Get your facts right before you start spreading lies. Liberia began being settled by formerly enslaved Americans around 1820. When Abe Lincoln was 11 years old. Abe was also pretty progressive compared to most White Americans in his racist beliefs. By today’s standards, he was racist. But he was for his time about as progressive as was possible for a white man to be in public without being subject to murder by slavers. And guess what, he was murdered by slavers.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I can hardly believe that the South and North can live in peace unless we get rid of the Negroes. Certainly they cannot, if we don't get rid of the Negroes whom we have armed and disciplined and who have fought with us, I believe, to the amount of 150,000 men. I believe it would be better to export them all...

https://archive.org/details/autobiographyper0192butl page 903

~~i can't find the exact source, it was in the memoirs of the general he wrote this to. I can look later when I have access to my laptop again but rest assured it is real and Lincoln was very much in favor of Liberia.~~

and no, he was no john brown. Other choice lincoln quotes:

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/usa/government/potus-lincoln-woke.htm

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