i think in this particular case it's not much different, but generally the muezzin calls five times each day plus a sixth bonus time on fridays for the jumu'ah. this can be even more annoying than the christian stupid sunday morning bell, when everyone is still hungover; that is, if they actually do it from the minaret, but they can also use messengers, radio, etc.
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Where I use to live the church bells would ring every hour and the amount of times it rang represented what time it was.
Some churches ring three times a day for daily prayer. Dunno how common that is in the US.
I live near a town with a street that was named "church street", not because the church was on it, but seven. The town as a whole has at least 17 that I know of.
About half of them have bells, and of those, 5 ring every hour on the hour all day and night, one rings every hour from 8am to 8pm, two or three ring 3x a day (sunrise, noon, sunset) and the others either don't have bells or don't use them regularly enough for me to notice.
I can hear the chiming from my back yard, which is several miles away from the city limits.
I don't know how people put up with it, honestly. It's nothing to do with my dislike for religion in general, I just hate all that noise, and would not be able to live close to them.
I do think my town is a bit of an anomaly though.
I lived in Oxford for a few years and, if anything, I became rather fond of all the bell ringing. But I can see why someone might have the opposite reaction.
The jesuit school by my work does ring them at least thrice a day. They are kinda nice though. I agree nobody needs public alarms now we have clocks in our pockets though.
ETA: they ring hourly. I checked today.
In that the primary function of the bells (at least where I live) is the telling of time, not religious broadcasting. There is no inherent message in the chiming of the clocks. In general, the bells chime every full hour during during daytime, and clock towers aren't necessarily exclusive to churches either.
There is certainly an argument to be made however that they should be removed due to being redundant, intrusive and outdated.
If I had a choice between both being allowed and both prohibited, the choice would be prohibiting both, always. It's a question of freedom from religion - we shouldn't have to live with religious propaganda being blasted into our homes.
Where I live it isn't. The bells ring 15 min before each mass and that's it. Mass at 13:40? Bells go off at 13:25. On Sunday this happens several times a day at "random" times of day that have nothing to do with telling the time.
There's a neighbourhood in New York that had a whole ass siren to announce Shabbos. And not a small one, it was a Sentry 40V2T which is one of the loudest outdoor warning sirens produced today. Needless to say that got shut down years ago.
Here's a video from 10 years ago of the siren.
It was missing many of its horns but still proved far too loud.
Oh, fuck that.
However long that took to get shut down, it wasn't fast enough.
That's INSANE. And for a non emergency.
It isn't different
All orginized religion is social cancer
amen!
Tbf how organized is a religion if government is actively oppressing it?
Like don't get me wrong, I know religious muslims are homophobic too. But you won't see them walk up to the cashier and start yelling about how "pork is against Islam" when they see a peppa the pigs t-shirt.
Needs text alternative.
Images of text break much that text alternatives do not.
Losses due to image of text lacking alternative such as link:
- usability
- we can't quote the text without pointless bullshit like retyping it or OCR
- text search is unavailable
- the system can't
- reflow text to varied screen sizes
- vary presentation (size, contrast)
- vary modality (audio, braille)
- accessibility
- lacks semantic structure (tags for titles, heading levels, sections, paragraphs, lists, emphasis, code, links, accessibility features, etc)
- some users can't read this due to lack of alt text
- users can't adapt the text for dyslexia or vision impairments
- systems can't read the text to them or send it to braille devices
- web connectivity
- we have to do failure-prone bullshit to find the original source
- we can't explore wider context of the original message
- authenticity: we don't know the image hasn't been tampered
- searchability: the "text" isn't indexable by search engine in a meaningful way
- fault tolerance: no text fallback if
- image breaks
- image host is geoblocked due to insane regulations.
Contrary to age & humble appearance, text is an advanced technology that provides all these capabilities absent from images. They're both public nuisances & can be reported as noise disturbances.
Or the local Methodist church that plays a loudspeaker hymn at noon everyday.
That's different, because it is doing God's Will and Bringing People to Jesus. We're saving people's souls!!!
The Radical Islamic Jihadists are doing Allah's Will and Bringing People to Mohammad, which damns them to hell.
It isn't. Both things are dumb, but in order to live in a free society, we have to let people be dumb, even if it's not our specific kind of dumb.
Yeah, freedom but only to only make the correct choices is just a tyranny that thinks itself benevolent. I don't like cigarettes but I oppose their full ban, just amoratize the long term cost to the government of that pack and slap it on as a tax. A call to prayer for a religion we don't practice has no cost to society and therefore while it may be annoying it's none of our businesses unless it becomes so disruptive it actually hinders others (like say, if it were every 10 minutes and so loud it can't be spoken over).
5 times a day actually
The concept is identical, but depending on the execution it can be quite different.
This like saying that classical music is the same as pop/rock just because they are both music that entertains people, some people hate classical music, other's hate pop/rock.
I would like to know how often these different calls to prayer is being played and how long each call takes, as well as how loud they both are in comparison.
The human voice is infinitely more annoying than the most irritating musical instrument. Or construction equipment for that matter.
This is a time when understanding what Islam truly is is of the upmost importance.
It is the 2nd most likely direction humanity might go.