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[–] mickus@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Where the fuck do they get this money from? $300 billion is fucking nuts. And 1.4 trillion in costs is literally bigger than my countries' entire GDP (Australia)

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

The 1% is willing to pay whatever imaginary fiat currency they can to eliminate the need for the working class. Then they can finally get rid of us.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 9 minutes ago

While simultaneously acting like a bunch of whining little crybabies about declining fertility rates.

Which is it: AI (and other automation) will replace jobs, or there aren't enough people to work all the jobs?

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 minutes ago

Well, it's called One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison, after all... 🤷‍♂️

[–] orange@communick.news 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Any combination of:

  • Issue new shares and sell them
  • Issue corporate bonds and sell them
  • Borrow money from banks
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 hours ago

If they kill oracle, will that kill the last Unix after IBM stole the parent OS of Solaris and put it into Novell's oubliette to reduce competition?

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 41 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

OpenAI’s mounting costs — set to hit $1.4 trillion

Sorry, but WTF!? $1.4 Trillion in costs? How are they going to make all of that back with just AI?

I think there's only one way they can make this back: if AI gets so good they can really replace most employees.

I don't think it will happen, but either way it's going to be an economic disaster. Either the most valuable companies in the world, offering services that the next couple of hundred companies in the world depend on, are suddenly bankrupt. Or suddenly everybody is unemployed.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago

1,400,000,000,000

I used to be amazed at how much a billion was, but this many 0s makes my head explode.

These must be bubble inflated costs to match the bubble inflated revenue.

[–] e461h@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Prediction: the bubble is real but financiers will find ways to kick the bull down the road until they can force enough adoption & ad insertion to not lose out. The other option is that we pay it, of course. Takes on which is worse?

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago

They'll do both just like they did in 2007/2008. These AI companies and their investors will get bailed out while the rest of us lose our jobs and have to move back in with our parents in the van they already live in.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 hours ago

If LLMs fail and they invested: bailout

If LLMs succeed and they invested: rich

If LLMs fail and they passed: everyone else bailed out

If LLMs succeed and they passed: out of business

Therefore, the logical choice for a business is to invest in LLMs. The only mechanism to not do the stupid thing that everyone else is doing is gone.

[–] Jakdracula@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

How is a haunted typewriter supposed to replace all those employees?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

I’ve tried explaining AI to people before and only could get so far before they fall back on “but it’s magic dude” but I love the idea of explaining it as a haunted typewriter.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I use the "very articulated parrot" analogy.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 1 points 26 minutes ago

They're systems trained to give plausible answers, not correct ones. Of course correct answers are usually plausible, but so do wrong answers, and on sufficiently complex topics, you need real expertise to tell when they're wrong.

I've been programming a lot with AI lately, and I'd say the error rate for moderately complex code is about 50%. They're great at simple boilerplate code, and configuration and stuff that almost every project uses, but if you're trying to do something actually new, they're nearly useless. You can lose a lot of time going down a wrong path, if you're not careful.

Never ever trust them. Always verify.

[–] sirspate@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Some of the more advanced LLMs are getting pretty clever. They're on the level of a temp who talks too much, misses nuance, and takes too much initiative. Also, any time you need them to perform too complex a task, they start forgetting details and then entire things you already told them.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

I use something similar. “Child with enormous vocabulary.”

It can recognize correlations, it understands the words themselves, but it really how those connections or words work.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I call dibs on the ghost of Harlan Ellison.


“HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.”

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

Glados: “just offer them cake and a fire pit and calm down”

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Ok but if it gets so good it replaces all the employees, how do people have enough money to pay for their services?

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 2 points 34 minutes ago

Who cares about the money of people when they have all the money?

[–] angband@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

that's what they got excited about, no doubt. profit would go through the roof if they could take people out of the loop. nevermind the economy.

[–] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Do y'all think investors will wake up and realize that techbros are a bunch of fraudster scammers? Oracle deserves bankruptcy for being stupid with money. All my homies hate the AI-Bubble.

Bro even the way journalists talk about AI like it being a bet couldn't be more obvious that it's all a scam. If this AI-Bubble is profitable where are the actual god damn profits.

[–] The_Vampire@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I imagine there's quite a few who believe it a fraud but want to profit anyway.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 hours ago

Fuck yeah. More of this. A lot more.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 hours ago

The sheer amount of AI slop shorts on YouTube must be generating entire dollars in revenue by now. Who isn't entertained and eagerly awaiting the next five million videos of the same scenario over and over again?

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 57 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

Personally, I am eyeballs deep in this industry and even I’m now hoping to see it all burn to the ground. I’ve already concluded that I’ll never make it to retirement in my field, probably because of automation. Fuck ‘em all.

[–] xartle@reddthat.com 12 points 9 hours ago

Same for me... It's depressing. And I no faith the government will do anything besides make it worse. If we're lucky we'll get the Expanse 's version of basic.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 87 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Oh good. AI is collapsing and it's taking Oracle with it.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Good. Larry Ellison does not appear to be a force for good in the world. Steve Jobs had negative things to say about him and his obsession with increasing his billions.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 34 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Me, watching my company pivot to their cloud infrastructure: haha, I'm in danger

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 32 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

I understand why people keep using oracle, but i have never understood why anyone starts.

Because they have a series of ERP systems and services that some idiot CTO at the company looks at and goes: Yes, give me one of those.

Then once you're on that, you get pulled into more and more Oracle ecosystem shit and you think some day you'll have control and be able to get out. But you never do.

Oracle is like the loanshark of the tech industry.

Once you're in, you're in for life. Good fucking luck getting out.

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