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[–] MattW03@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago
[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 169 points 2 days ago (1 children)

...using gigawatts of power that aren't available on the grid

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 1 day ago (23 children)

And megaliters of fresh water.

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[–] julianwgs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is how every ramp-up in a market works. It is called hedging. The promised sales volume at that higher price then let companies invest in higher supply.

The problem here is that none of only four companies which manufacture RAM don‘t want to compete for this demand, but instead share the price increase among each either in profit margins. (This is of course, because they don‘t believe in the AI hype, but nonetheless RAM manufacturing is an oligopoly, which is a problem in of itself.)

[–] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ramping up supply costs money, and the AI bubble is on the verge of popping. They'd need to know that this demand would be sticking around before investing in higher fab capacity.

[–] DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world 85 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember folks, since the end of COVID another greedy cork sucker is crowned next billionaire every 30 hours.

The number of billionaires in the USA has nearly and will shortly eclipse double the number there were before 2020. How did they do that, you fucking know. By pretending they would die and their children would get AIDS if they didn't raise the price of every single product on the planet exorbitantly and without need to increase already skyrocketing year to year profitability. These greedy bastards not only did this, they want to kill all of us who they fleeced before we wake up to the facts.

TOO LATE

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 57 points 1 day ago

This actually explains a few things for me.

I never considered that RAM and GPUs could be traded as futures, but obviously they can...

This also reminds me of the trader at a trading company in London who had to take delivery of 28000 tonnes of coal due to forgetting to sell a future he owned.

He only found out as the receptionist asked him to come down and sign for it and he saw barges of coal coming down the river:

https://thedailywtf.com/articles/Special-Delivery

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, if this does come to pass then we'll be getting a ton of cheap memory next year.

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Is this a gross exaggeration, or is the entire SaaS-to-hardware supply chain under such deep speculation right now?

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[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If we have to play this bubble game, can we at least force them to build some renewable energy sources with their unlimited funds so when the bubble pops, we have some extra renewable energy available to the grid?

[–] lauha@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Trump banned woke energy

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wind and sun are for SISSIES, even if it's CHEAPER! Nuclear plants are not antifa-woke, but my pal A.Jones says it makes everyone GAY. Drill baby, drill!

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Bastard obviously wants to colonize Venezuela.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

pretty sure they dont have the funds to build a power plant that is renewable, or a nuclear plant. thats why the cost of water/electricity is passed onto customers of electric and water companies.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago (2 children)

profits that won't happen

I have yet to see speculation as to how the bubble survivors make a profit. At this point I think AI is being pushed to keep propping up the US economy.

[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

That's a great question Shalafi! The answer is government mandated pillow talks to your AI companions. Would you like me to provide todays' topics in advance?

[–] jabberwock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

You're not alone in thinking that. The US economy is growing but all of that is allocated to 5 companies, and in any case the owners of that equity aren't a majority median income earners. We've essentially decoupled the economic health of the common person, who would actually spend on the bubble survivors, from the overall "strength" of the US economy.

An interesting discussion on that thought about halfway through this - https://www.ft.com/content/bd6545dc-41b7-42db-af77-b2f32a1c9ae1

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago

This is all just gambling with a bunch of cheaters. They can't use crypto schemes as much because people FINALLY figured out they were pump and dump scams .... so AI investment it is.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Listen, I'm with you, but the reason is hyper capitalist speculative greed. It could be anything we're talking about "ghee wiz price upon rice hath trippled during these trying times because some bloke in Nippon stamped some papers to offer part of next seasons crops and the king gobbled these up like tendies on a naked lady"

I mean, credit where credit's due. This is just their next gang rape horse and the fact that it's visibly dead for months isn't really relevant to them. The one that gags first will just get stuck with the bags after the seasonal bukkake festival

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's a hell of a mental picture you painted

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

So they can replace all workers. and won’t be able to make profit because they layed off all of the workers. Why do we need a government if they are investing all our resources in phasing us out? If you don’t work in our system you die so why are we allowing this again?

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Because idiots think that if we let the super rich become ultra rich then they will somehow in turn become regular rich.

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[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The rich have it going both ways. They have convinced a subset of the lower classes to fight amongst and blame each other. Meanwhile they very shortdightedly are maximizing profits (not from the lower classes anymore because they have essentially bled us dry) but from other rich people who want to invest to maximize profits.

They have forgotten that the only way capitalism remains sustainable over time is if they continue to both provide products and services lower class individuals will spend money on, and if they continue to pay those lower class individuals money so they have money to spend. Right now they're busy grifting each other and our government is too stupid to look to the future, realize that the bubble has to pop sometime, and realize what that will mean for the market, the tax system, the tax payers, and the populace at large.

This is class warfare for profits over literally everything and it is going to crash the economy probably sooner rather than later.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are two kinds of parasites:

  1. A smart parasite keeps its host alive. It limits the substance it leeches, prioritizing long term survival over short term satisfaction.
  2. A dumb parasite takes as much as it can. Even if it causes the host to die, and the parasite to die with it.

Of course - "smart" and "dumb" are used liberally here. The organism itself is not intelligent, and neither is the process who designed it. At least - that's how it works in nature.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So basically neoliberals are smart parasites and republicans are dumb parasites

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They win if the bubble pops too because then they just buy everything for pennies on the dollar

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Like Ford stopping producing batteries for their own cars (byd says thanks) in order to convert the factory for datacenter-class batteries

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm thinking this generation of AI is going to be a rug pull, and all of these companies will be "too big to fail" and they'll make a fortune as the consumers and taxpayers carry the cost.

[–] ewo@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Sounds about right, history is a circle

[–] vegan_communist@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 day ago

Fuck capitalism

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It won’t affect energy prices, because the nuclear power plants they’re building to power their data centers are going to be up and running any minute now.

Just keep the golden investment teet flowing until it’s dry.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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