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Developers of apps that use end-to-end encryption to protect private communications could be considered hostile actors in the UK.

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[–] LuigiMaoFrance@lemmy.ml 5 points 14 hours ago

Off topic but does the UK still have the death penalty for treason? Just wondering.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 25 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm baffled that all this tracking nonsense is pushed through by a government that is supposed to be left of the tories. I guess that goes to show you that "center" parties can be just as evil as conservatives.

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 28 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

They aren't left. Starmer and chums undermined the left-wing leader of Labour. They're the pro-business wing of the party. New Labour folks were always dreadful for this sort of thing. Many authoritarian changes are coming from the centre, in UK, France, Denmark etc.

It all feels co-ordinated as states and their representatives squeeze down on working people.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 6 points 17 hours ago

I know they aren't left, that's why I wrote "left of the tories". They are centrist and how Starmer ever managed to become prime minister is beyond me. That guy as a suit through and through.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You are exactly where the US was thirty or so years ago. Get ready for the hard push right to try to "attract the moderate Tories".

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Get ready for something they were doing 20 years ago?

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

I don't know about you guys but this feels like a reverse psychology psyop to increase the usage of these two apps. There are a ton more e2ee chat messengers, but they point to the only two apps using the signal protocol. Maybe they're sitting on some 0-day exploits?

But if you want to believe the surveillance government at face value then go right ahead.

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Gosh, and these powers could be handed to Farage.

They could be complicit in what comes next.

[–] sleen@lemmy.zip 4 points 17 hours ago

Farage will definitively not dismiss this opportunity - this and more is what he craves. Fascism will be pushed harder down the throats of the working class which will go a step further than the already fascist attempts at taking away rights of young people.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

What the fuck happened to UK, I knew their average population was dumb when brexit happened but they doubled down on it?

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 19 points 20 hours ago

People ran so hard from the Tories that they didn't consider Blue Labour would be dreadful also. Right now Labour and Tories are politically in danger and Reform and the Green Party are surging. Folk are fed up of parties not representing them. They just haven't fully cottoned on that that also applies to Reform. Greens are probably the main hope right now. Membership trebled to 180k. Polling close to Labour.

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