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[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 85 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Cool stuff, this proves it is possible. Let's require it worldwide.

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 14 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Side loading on thlse bullshit devices has been a EU thing for years.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 weeks ago

That's where these rules are coming from. EU made the first move, and countries around the world follows.

It's like this with most laws. But the world depends on the first mover. Right now for everything on consumer protection, it's the EU they look at.

[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes and no. Apple managed to fuck that up using something called "notarized apps". Guess how many apps you can sideload? I think you have more than enough fingers to do that easily.

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

goddamn, you a damn good pianist brother.

[–] e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

what possibility are you referring to? i only knew about the dev app workaround but you would have to reload the app every 7 days

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Eh, or just buy an android. How dumb is this shit?

I support it, don't get me wrong... But like, guys, we solved this over a decade ago.

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago

Android is trying to block anything which is not the play store as well...

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago
  1. This is not a problem that needs solving, it's an artificial barrier to prevent you from using the device which reduces profit for the manufacturer. Being able to install and run whatever software you want (apart from actual hardware limitations) has been part of personal computers since the invention of personal computers.
  2. Google is trying its best to do this as well, if you've missed the news.
[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 35 points 3 weeks ago

No no no. Brazil forced Apple to open it's devices to third party options. Apple folded because it had no choice.

(Of course it could leave Brazil, but then shareholders would sue the execs for basic incompetence or whatever, and win, of course.)

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

will let

This implies there was a choice. I'd've been glad for a "must let" headline.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think the actual headline should be "Apple forced to remove some illegal barriers to app installation for users in Brazil".

I am annoyed by the headline giving Apple the agency to let users use their device. Screw that, if someone buys a device they should be able to use it however they please, including installing their own OS and their own apps on top, and replacing any part of the hardware. Anything preventing that should be illegal.

[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Man i feel like if Apple opened up their systems, it would barely affect revenue, and would make android much less appealing. proper sideloading and full control over the OS would genuinely remove a lot of barriers for hardcore android users to move to ios.

[–] NullPointerException@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I don’t really want side loading, I just want, as a foreign that frequently goes to Brazil, to be able to install apps from the Brazilian AppStore. I can’t use many apps because they’re not in my AppStore. It seems side loading is a possibility.

[–] buffing_lecturer@leminal.space 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So right now, I assume, the store content is based on your apple account country not your geolocation?

[–] elgordino@fedia.io 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah. It’s super annoying when visiting a foreign country and you want to install an app for a local transport provider. If they haven’t made their app available globally you just can’t install it.

[–] buffing_lecturer@leminal.space 3 points 3 weeks ago

Or for expats who buy a phone in their new country and cant access their apps anymore. Even worse as more businesses require the use of their app for certain things and don't offer a web app.

[–] NullPointerException@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

I imagine they use this as a way of removing an app from a country that forbids it. But also, I think you, as a dev, pay more if you want your app in all AppStores. As other said, transport app, food delivery and other services are a pain to have if they’re not available in your country’s AppStore.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 8 points 3 weeks ago

Still got the onerous signing procedure that still makes devs pay a tithe to Apple like in other markets I assume?

[–] e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

could i change my apple account country to brasil in order to enjoy these options outside of Brasil?

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, but you have to write "please come to Brazil" on every artist post.

[–] e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

please come to Brazil, foda.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

Nope. It’s physical location, and in Europe, you have to verify your physical location every so-many days.

I was going on vacation to Europe so I was going to try it, but my trip got cancelled.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 3 weeks ago

They neither can't sold the charger separately of the phone in Brazil

[–] tinsuke@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

With a fine of ~$27 million, I think they'll just pretend to be working on it, get the "good guys, complying with legislation and opening up the platform", not do it (or at least, not in any satisfactory way), and pay the fine, if it gets applied.

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

Now how generous of them.