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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The 6 means 6, 18, AND 30.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

At least they are all divisible by 6.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

God I'd hope so. Imagine how bad you'd have to fuck up time to make it not :)

[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Oh also the hours will start at 1 and the minutes will start at 0

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Clocks are based on sundials. The little hand roughly follows where a shadow would be. The rest is just what people agreed on made the most sense.

[–] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

Only noobs start counting at 1. Midnight = 24:00 = 00:00

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 19 points 10 hours ago (3 children)
[–] sexybenfranklin@ttrpg.network 8 points 8 hours ago

We're on Metric time already, the base unit of measure for time in the Metric system is the second. This is decimal time.

[–] Patches@ttrpg.network 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Ugh I can hear it now

In our relentless pursuit of innovation, we are proud to announce the switch from the outdated 24-hour clock to Metric Time™.

Effective immediately, your standard 8-hour workday will now be... 8 metric hours.

That’s 80% of the entire day. Because nothing says “work-life balance” like leaving 2 hours for life.

Embrace the future. You’re already late.

[–] skepller@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago

Holy shit, that actually looks so neat and organized, I want it 😭

[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 27 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

The numbers on the clock actually make a lot of sense.

12, 24 and 60 are highly composite numbers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highly_composite_number).

Imagine using numbers in a world where most people have no real understanding of fractions.

That is also the reason why you see the same or similar numbers as common screen refresh rates. 24, 48, 60, 120 and 240.

The 12 hour clockface design is that way because it is a similar design to that of a sundial, so people did not need to learn a new way to read the time. This also meant that for readibility reasons it was beneficial to only have 12 numbers.

[–] __dev@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago

Surely you mean common refresh rates like 23.976Hz (NTSC), 25hz (PAL & ATSC), 50hz (PAL & ATSC), 59.95hz (NTSC), 100hz (PAL+) and 144hz, right? /s

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 4 points 10 hours ago

60 in particular is a superior highly composite number, 12 divisors compared to a paltry 8 for 24.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Everybody loves composite numbers, but I'm missing the point in which this is advantage in the context of time. The only situation I know of where time needs to be divided is in paid work, and in this case it's always converted to base 10 money.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago

The decimalization of money is its own fun history, with a lot of different countries undergoing their own transitions at different times.

The Spanish dollar, which was the world reserve currency in its heyday, was divided into 8 reals (see how pirates used to refer to money in the form of "pieces of eight") but issues with the supply of silver led to the introduction of the lesser real de vellón, which eventually settled at 20 to the dollar after over 100 years of uncertainty and confusion.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago

Geometry.

The first clocks were sundials, which worked by putting a line on the ground. As soon as you comparing two different lines on the ground, you are doing geometry to represent time.

When you start messing around with geometry, you need an easy way to describe the angle of an equilateral triangle. 1/6th of a circle, or 1/3rd of a line. Trying to represent 1/3 or 1/6th in base 10 is fugly. Trying to divide a circle into 10 equal sections is just as fugly.

Dividing a circle into 6 equal sections is trivial: after you draw the circle with your compass, walk the compass around the perimeter. You have just inscribed a hexagon.

You're still missing the angle of 1/4 of a circle: the angles of a square. Those are pretty important in geometry as well. It's fairly trivial to draw another 6 points between the first 6 on your circle.

We use a 12-hour clock because of basic geometry. The 360-degree circle is the bastard child of basic geometry and a base-10 number system.

[–] portuga@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Haven’t seen this one this week. Thanks

[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

We will also use 3 sticks to tell the time.

Time is linear. But this will be circular.

[–] Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Time ..line? Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round!

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 5 hours ago

Why don't I ever get the fucking sniper rifle?

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 26 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

24 hours cause Egyptians split their sun dials and star decans into 12 parts each (probably cause 12 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6) which the greeks later turned into equal length hours (before the length would change over the year)

60 minutes due to Babylonian base-60 math

12 hour format is just tradition at this point, but derived from the sun dials which only worked at day, so half the time, and the star decans which only worked at night, so the other half.

pretty much every country except the US uses the 24h format on digitial clocks now

also the dude in the meme was kinda right: the day will be divided into 12 segments. and the night will too. at least originally

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

This all originated from the Ancient Sumerians btw. They passed it down to Babylonians.

Edit: A bit of history from what I learned from listening to Fall of Civilizations in the shower.

The Ancient Sumerians invented this sexagesimal system because if you look at your hand, you notice 12 knuckles (this is obviously excluding your thumb, as that is used for counting each knuckle), and with your other hand you will raise a single finger for every time you finish counting past 12 knuckles on your left hand. So raising your thumb is 12, thumb and index is 24, and so on, until you reach 60.

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Came here to say this, you said it far better than I would have! Great addition with the edit.

[–] ethaver@kbin.earth 7 points 17 hours ago

It's called a "highly composite number!" I read up on a lot of this stuff while learning about numerology and other esoteric spiritual traditions!

[–] Armillarian@pawb.social 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Its possible to create a new time format/ system, the problem is how to standardise it everywhere

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Easy, use the metric time.

9:30 PM would just become Hour 89.58333333/100 of the day 😉

[–] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago

No use imperial, eg. 1 gallon is equal to 2,4899 feet mutliplied with 8,67763 nuggets, therefore you need to work five big mac longer

[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It has been done and it is called swatch time.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

Beat/Swatch time was itself inspired by French Republican time.

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 day ago (4 children)

24 hour analogue clocks exist. I have a 24 hour watch which only revolves once per 24 hours. It's a disadvantage though.

The reason why clocks and watches display 12 hours at a time is so that they have space to show finer resolution of time. If you try to cram 24 hours onto a clock, it's not easy to tell if it's 12:20 or 12:30 at a quick glance.

Most people are not too stupid to be aware of if they are in the first 12 hours or second 12 hours of a day, so they benefit from a watch with 12 hour timescale and finer resolution so that they can more easily see exactly what time it is.

And for all the dummies posting about 12h vs 24h clocks. In the sense of saying that it's 1pm vs 13:00. That's not what this meme is even describing. This is about the physical layout of a clock or watch face.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

This is what the minute and second hands are for, though

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

You could get a jump hour watch, meaning the hour isn't a slowly moving hand but instead jumps from 6 to 7 with a jump, avoiding potential mixing up of hours, it would make it easier to read those 24h

Like this watch

Edit: The original watch linked is a weird one, it's not a jump hour watch but instead it has a jumping dial to turn it from a 12h to a 24h, very neat! I can't seem to find a 24h jump hour watch apart from this 30k breguet lol

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[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 81 points 1 day ago (23 children)

It is wild how people refuse to use the 24 hour clock. It is so logical and easy. kind of like the metric system…..

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

You mean like metric time?

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

Metric system should be replaced with something base12 thh

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