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[–] tal@lemmy.today 313 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

"Open source" really isn't the right term here, if they're just releasing API specifications. "Open sourcing" the speakers would be releasing the source code to the software that runs on the speakers.

Like, all of Microsoft's libraries on Windows have a publicly-documented interface. That hardly makes them open source. Just means that people can write software that make use of them.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes, the correct term for this would be “open api”

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"documented api", nothing open about it

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Idk, it probably has an open backdoor somewhere

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

There is a Soundtouch extension to Music Assistant, which which is part of Home Assistant. Last I checked the developer is unsure how functional the wireless speakers will be after the app shutdown.

[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Indeed it's misleading wording but credit where credit is due, this is far better than turning them all into e-waste. It's not like anyone bought these with the assumption they would have any sort of official API someday, especially after seeing how Sonos handled their similar situation...

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

It’s misleading wording by arse-technica, not Bose. The quoted wording from Nosebis correct and it looks like they’re doing the right thing. After originally announcing they would be dumb speakers, now they’ll continue to be useful and third party apps can continue to use them. Applaud Bose for doing the right thing

Direct your Boos to arse-technica

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 137 points 1 week ago (4 children)

We need a law that companies provide device owners root access for every end of life device.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's something the EU would do, but never America.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

How about a free gun at the end of life of any device?

[–] undrwater@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

NOW we're talking!

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[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think medical device manufacturers should have to support their products for some definite length of time—maybe 10 years?—or not be allowed to make devices at all

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This type of laws already exist in some cases, but realistically no one knows that the company won't just go bankrupt in 5 years. Open sourcing things is a "reasonable" last resort option, or rather, the only viable one

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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Medical devices are already supported for a very long time. At least the official ones used in hospitals.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For software too, if a company has sold software and then goes out of business, it should have to give all licensed users permanent access to use it. Preferably also the source code. (Ideally we'd have open source options for everything but that's not always practical or possible right now.)

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yes! Exactly. I buy, I own. That's what it SHOULD be.

Phones are the worst example. Pay 1500 moneyz and still it's not yours. You may only use it in the way they want you to. Ugh.

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[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 81 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It would be one thing for a corporation to misuse the term open source as they've been doing lately. It's pretty bad for one of the biggest and oldest tech news sites to be doing it.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

More like ArseTechnica, eh?

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 week ago (5 children)

No thanks. I had like 20 sonos speaker, and then, one day, sonos decided to fuck the app up, making it impossible to use my library anymore. This was the day I sold them all, ranted like a pissed off babuskha and never thought of buying similar products ever but make my own.

Real open source or go fork yourself in the eye. I'm so done with this corpo-crapshit

[–] BeyondRuby@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You sound like an extremist brother. If they lie and dont do it (seems like they already have made it open-source) then get mad. But it sounds like you are upset because you got screwed by Sonos and Bose actually are attempting to do the right thing for their customers.

[–] NovaTheFluf@piefed.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thing is they didn't actually open-source it, as stated in other comments. They just released the api documentation. While, yes, it is a step in the correct direction, it is definitely not open-source. Open source would be releasing the source code for all the software involved, which they haven't done.

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[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Extremist? Nah, I'm just old enough to have been fooled and fucked way too often by the enshittification, so that I have serious trust issues with corpo promises now.

I try to stay away from big tech crap as far as I can. If there's no open source alternative, I make my own (if complexity allows) or just don't use it at all.

And I'm not upset at Bose. Great if they really deliver. I just doubt they will. And if they do, it would be the one shiny example that stands out. But it would make Bose a bit more attractive to me then. At least the older ones.

Besides, other comments say they just release the API, not made it real open source. Dunno what is true and also don't care. Yet it would be a substantial difference.

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[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Basic documentation does not equal open source.

Toaster ovens from 40 years ago did better. They came with a technical diagram.

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 21 points 1 week ago

We need to start demanding technical diagrams again. I've fixed up antiques where the schematics were printed on the inside, even for a simple flashlight.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago

But that means you'll repair it rather than just buying another. We can't have that! Think of the GDP!

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's a pretty cool thing to do

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They didn't open source anything.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, but at least documenting the API and saying “have at it” is better than dropping it

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago

The headline is still misleading.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

And they didn't do it. The headline is misleading.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago
[–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is there any quality, real open-source speakers? Or it's way better not bother with it and get dumb speakers and an SBC?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't use OpenHAB or Home Assistant, but I'd be extremely surprised if they don't have existing functionality for connecting microphones, speakers, and LLMs to set up voice-controlled stuff.

searches

https://heywillow.io/

Willow Is a Practical, Open Source, Privacy-focused Platform for Voice Assistants and Other Applications

Willow is an ESP IDF based project primarily targeting the ESP32-S3-BOX hardware family from Espressif. Our goal is to provide Amazon Echo/Google Home competitive performance, accuracy, cost and functionality with Home Assistant, openHAB and other platforms.

100% open source and completely self-hosted by the user with "ready for the kitchen counter" low cost commercially available hardware.

https://rhasspy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

Rhasspy (ɹˈæspi) is an open source, fully offline set of voice assistant services for many human languages that works well with:

  • Hermes protocol compatible services (Snips.AI)
  • Home Assistant and Hass.io
  • Node-RED
  • Jeedom
  • OpenHAB
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[–] bastion@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago
[–] nroth@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

They're never getting those integrations back though, e.g. Spotify. Those are usually implemented in each company's servers rather than something that can be brokered locally through an API. That needs to change

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