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Here are 3 frames, one for each shot... absolutely not in the path danger. And let's just say he was, there's clear case law in that:
A law enforcement officer may not deliberately or recklessly place themselves in a position of danger and then justify deadly force as self-defense when that danger was foreseeable and avoidable.
-Kirby vs. Duva court ruling
They're using the South Park, "They were coming right for us" defense. This is supposed to be a joke, not an actual defense.
https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/9b5egn/south-park-it-s-coming-right-for-us
And the joke is how obvious of a lie it is.
I looked at it this way: the biggest outcry against ICE has been now that a white woman has been killed by them.
Blame the media for their conservative/racist leanings. I hadn't heard much if anything about other similar cases until this happened. And I sure hadn't seen a video of those incidents.
There's an undeniable racial component, yeah, but there's also the very real fact that those suffering past abuses were broadly in a different category from the majority of ordinary (white and white passing) American citizens, creating the illusion that they themselves were safe, or could choose to be safe by keeping their heads down.
As soon as the victim is in a position that you yourself could easily find yourself in (like dropping your kid off at school in a residential area), and you can imagine that you might make the same choices (like trying to leave a dangerous situation safely), your own safety is under direct threat.
A lot of people were sad, angry and outraged before, but now they're scared.
Yeah, acknowledging the racial component is fine, but the OP frames it in a much more productive way than @RedSnt@feddit.dk.
I have personally given the speech about how your white skin won't save you from the ICE thugs. They're not checking documentation. There's no judge. And if they don't care about proof of citizenship, why do you think they'd give a fuck about the color of your skin? That's not much of a shield.
But this one is different, and it's not just race. "Could easily find yourself in" hits the nail on the head. It's not just that she's white; it's that you can tell what she was doing. She was turning around to leave, allowed traffic to go in front of her first, and then allowed the truck to pass before she went, not knowing the unmarked truck was ICE.
She wasn't on the front line of a protest. She wasn't living in a barely habitable apartment complex struggling to scrape by. We should, and often do empathize with those people as well, but they're not as relatable.
Race might be a good chunk of why it's so easy to empathize, but it's not the only reason. Renee Good's crime was turning down the wrong street.
The outcry is still limited because the woman shot appears to be in a gay relationship (a lady declaring herself as her wife was on scene at the murder).
So most conservatives are still unable to empathize nor see this as 'one of their clan' at risk, even though it was a white person.
It'll take a MAGA-hat-wearing white guy being shot by ICE before they start to worry about the new SS.
The only, only reason that the civil rights movement worked was because they had black panthers backing them up. Without threat of violence peaceful protests dont work.
Google "radical flank effect"
Edit: to clarify this is in support of ops comment. What they're talking about is called the radical flank effect.
For those of us that are lazy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_flank_effect "The radical flank effect refers to the positive or negative effects that radical activists for a cause have on more moderate activists for the same cause." "Greater differentiation between moderates and radicals in the presence of a weak government.[2][13][14]: 411 As Charles Dobson puts it: "To secure their place, the new moderates have to denounce the actions of their extremist counterparts as irresponsible, immoral, and counterproductive. The most astute will quietly encourage 'responsible extremism' at the same time." "
For those of us that are lazy….
Hey, that’s me!
When will it be enough that people actively start opening fire on ICE the second they pull out to their street? This is getting ridiculous. Not even white women are safe.
The problem is that's when he "gets" to declare Marshall Law and take over the government and the military.
So far, judges have denied him access to military even though he keeps screaming about terrorists and buildings burning, when really there are people in frog costumes and people with whistles.
Hitler took control of German government and military the second a building caught fire. This is likely what he's trying to make happen.
Elections happen this year that could generate some congressional power challenges against his orders with more urgency. How much hope do I have that elections even happen? Will several red states change last minute election rules and post office cancel ballot deliveries or straight up replace federal electors again? Will he make up a fake excuse to end elections or arrest opponents? Who knows. Once he steals power instead of having it with legitimacy is when gloves have to come off. In the meantime it has to stay peaceful. We dug this hole ourselves at this point.
At some point you have to say enough is enough instead of coming out with this stupid ass excuse.
"we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.” - Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts
I don't think people calling for restraint understand what we're up against.
It's pretty stunning how they talk like terrorists and abusers and people just go with it.
But I guess I know from experience that conservative culture has a lot of "shut up and deal with it" conditioning. And not like "practicing stoicism is good for you" dealing with it. It's more like "know your place, respect your betters, and shut your mouth."
It's the "might makes right" approach.
Most of us get educated about why that's bad in pre-school. Nobody likes a bully and often bullying is ended with a swift punch in the face from the victim. People like Stephen Miller just haven't got theirs yet.
Trump can declare war without even telling congress about it. What makes you think he needs something real in order to "declare martial law"? At what point are you going to decide that NOT FIGHTING BACK is actually helping these people trample you?
He's already stolen power. He's admitted multiple times that they rigged the election.
*Martial Law
Hopefully soon
Here's the video. NSFW.
https://xcancel.com/maxnesterak/status/2008961959731859757#m
Yeah.... That's entirely fucked.
Guy wearing tac gear with a police branding on him, no badge in sight and covering their face like a common thug. Shoots unarmed woman in vehicle while she was trying to exit the situation in any way possible.
The only part of this that I'm thankful for is that her death was probably quick and relatively painless. Everything else about this screams hostile takeover.
I mean, that's not new, we've been seeing similar bullshit forever, brought to the spotlight previously by the BLM movement. They're just not discriminating against only POC. Now it's anyone who isn't them.
I know this is just emphasizing it but I don’t know how anyone saw “white lives matter” as anything other than anti-black rhetoric.
Like, I can believe that a genuinely ignorant but well-intentioned liberal thought “all lives matter” was valid because they were more concerned with being nice than real justice, but “white lives matter” could never be anything other than racist.
All Lives Matter is a perfectly fine position to have, just like thinking that all genders should be treated equally.
The problem is when you try to use that position to say that people aren't allowed to focus on systemic violence against a specific demographic.
"all lives matter" is a reaction from misinterpreting "black lives matter" as "only black lives matter", rather than its real declaration of "black lives matter too".
that's why "all lives matter", well-intentioned as it may be, is an issue.
It would be lovely if everyone took the time to explain that as nicely as you. Thanks!
It's not nearly as present in discourse as it used to be, but it wasn't too long ago that it felt like so many people had internalized the idea that saying "all lives matter" was 100%, no room for nuance, a dogwhistle for racist people who somehow really meant "white lives are the only lives that matter". Maybe it was for some racist assholes.
I just felt like focusing on any one skin color was limiting. I wasn't against BLM, I wanted even more!
"All Lives Matter" is a dishonest racist dogwhistle every time it's used. The fact that all lives matter goes without saying -- literally, it doesn't need to be said. It is not a neutral/symmetrical response to "Black Lives Matter" because "black lives matter" actually does need to be said!
Honestly would like to see a white lives matter movement come out of the ladies death. That’s the second time a white woman has been shot and killed by cops that I can recall in the past little while (I assume it happens way more often but that’s two pretty high profile cases).
This lady is exactly right; white supremacists ironically do not give a fuck about white people.
The FULL UNEDITED VIDEO is undeniable.
She starts to pull out of her parking spot, sees the oncoming pickup truck and stops, then waves at it to pass, like we've all done a million times. Two MASKED MEN with FIREARMS get out of the UNMARKED PICKUP TRUCK and one immediately approaches her vehicle and reaches inside to forcibly unlock and open the door, and that's when she tries to pull away, which anyone in their right mind would do if two masked men get out of an unmarked vehicle with guns and try reaching into your vehicle.
Most sources are only showing the video starting as soon as she tries to pull away, leaving many Americans totally unaware that, for no reason, instead of passing her, they decide to get out of their vehicle and forcibly open her door to pull her out. Again. Masked, armed, and in an unmarked vehicle.
White supremisist kill white people who don’t tow the line and they always have. It’s nowhere near the level that black people face but it happens. In construction white people get blackballed for standing up to discrimination so i imagine that there’s economic consequences for this behavior elsewhere too. I think our entire system is set up to punish those who don’t uphold this system of oppression