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[–] chahk@beehaw.org 33 points 1 week ago

Remember, folks, HR is there too protect the company, not you.

[–] kersplomp@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago

This doesn't surprise me. I know a gal who reported retaliation at Google and was immediately put on a secret HR blacklist that prevented her from getting above a certain perf rating. She was later "laid off" without cause.

She recorded her chat with HR, and this is a direct quote from the HR person: "Oh, that's not retaliation. That's a very specific legal construct. It sounds like what your manager is doing is more like retribution."

[–] PaddleMaster@beehaw.org 16 points 1 week ago

It’s easier to shun problematic women from society (in this case fire her) than to educate and hold men accountable on how women are not objects, nor property.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because "Google employee probably fired after Google acknowledges she was telling the truth about sexual harassment" isn't quite as PC of a headline

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Redundant is the British term for being laid off.

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's used outside of UK too. I've seen it used in the US, for example. Usually it's just a corporate term that says "you're fired" but without saying that. They use terms like these all the time to try not to take accountability for fucking someone's life up.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, but this is a BBC article and they don't say laid off they say "made redundant", its not a sanitizer term in UK, it is just the legal term everyone goes by for when you lose your job.

[–] lucas@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's not quite true, it's a very specific reason for losing your job. If you are fired for doing a bad job, and said you were made redundant, that would be a lie. Redundancy is about the role, not the individual.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes that's why I said Laid off not fired. Laid off is about the role no longer being needed

[–] lucas@startrek.website 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

True, just clarifying to clarify the last sentence:

In UK, it is just the legal term everyone goes by for when you lose your job

Since I think there's room for misunderstanding that it's more generic than it is

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah makes sense

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

It's like I tell everyone else that gets harassed, sexually or non-sexually: go tell a lawyer, not HR.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Made redundant"? WTF, BBC?

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is just the British term for being laid off/fired.

[–] lucas@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not quite the same thing. If you are 'fired' that's generally to do with performance or conduct of the individual. Redundancy is about not needing (or affording) the role any more (i.e. it is redundant). There are specific legal protections for each case that work quite differently. (You cannot rehire for the same position after a redundancy, for example)

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago

Fair. Did not know about the nuance, but in this case it was mostly just pointing out the BBC was not being callous.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, "laid off" and "fired" are two different things. It sounds like this is closer to being laid off.

But, regardless, nobody gets laid off for reporting sexual harassment.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Tell me you're American without telling me you're American.

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does anyone outside the Brits use it though? All this tells you is they are not from the UK

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tell me you're a corpo lackey buying into the "synergy speak" without telling me directly.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

What does "laid off" mean if you interpret it literally? Have you ever even thought about it? At least you understand how the the term "redundancy" came about. But what if the words we use to convey concepts are just the words we use to convey concepts, and not an act of malice or compliance?