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I get that people like things to be easier, but honestly, Arch's installation process is so streamlined these days that I don't see that as the selling point. However, if it provides a better driver experience, then that's cool. Simply not something I need.
EOS provides some more QoL features, itβs not just the installation itself (a button to update mirrors, auto keyring update, some nice pre-installed things like yay, etc)
If you need an Arch installation ready to go out of the box, EOS is a solid choice.
Edit: not trying to convince you to jump to EOS, just providing a bit more context about the distro
Yeah, that's cool. For me, the beauty of Arch is how naked it is when I install it. It's like "least priveleges" but for my workstation. I only add the crap I want. No more, no less.
I cut my teeth on FreeBSD 2.2.1 way back in '97 or whenever the hell that came out. Suffice it to say, that OS was naked as hell. Arch feels like coming home to me in a strange way, even though BSD is still solid. Linux is a much better workstation that BSD these days.
edit: perhaps I'm something of a masochist. :)
I see Endeavour as Arch with sane defaults. They also use the Arch repos, if the distro dies I'm not really affected.
My wife found it accessible enough that I switched my own setup to it for consistency and it's done well. But yeah if arch works don't consider switching
archinstall straight up could not deal with the partition setup I wanted, EOS installed without problems. Something about installing btrfs with multiple subvolumes next to Windows on the same drive.
I choose a distro based on the name and logo. If the distro doesn't feel cool anymore, I switch.
This is why I never used Ubuntu.
UwUntu is the correct one, surely
And Fedora? I can't look anyone in the eye and tell them thats my operating system.
I call that the IPA method
I tried running Bazzite for a few months, but just kept running into one weird issue after another. Went to Endeavor and they all went away overnight.
Iβm technical enough that I can configure Arch from scratch, but simply canβt be bothered. I just need my computer to work. Every day.
I felt like when I was working with Arch, and Iβm sure itβs operator error, it was like maintaining a starship with a dozen systems that could individually go wrong and I was responsible for all of them. Endeavor was fully setup with no weirdness in less than 30 minutes.
Had the opposite experience, tried Endevour first, must have done something wrong as it started running like ass/freezing up constantly requiring a full reboot to come back.
Swapped to bazzite and didn't have that issue again, I did get to learn more about how to work with mutable distros too.
Ultimately didn't matter much as that laptop died about a year later anyway, it won't turn on at all anymore, good run of like 10 years tho.
Someone could write a bookβ¦
The Joys of Distro-Hopping
Same experience with bazzite.I had a very strange issue with packages completly gone after using LACT to experiment and managing to freeze my os.
TBH I realised immutable systems aren't for me and I am not a linux noob, so I immediately went back to Arch and never looked back.
archinstall is amazing btw. Best installer by far IMHO. shit free, takes 30s to setup an arch system with great defaults. Nothing beats it for me.
Edit: for me someone using "I use void btw" would make more sense.
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I do not get why people on distros like Endevour or Cachy say that they use arch. It makes me cringe everytime. Be proud of your distro, they are all good.
Endeavour is Arch. It uses the Arch repos.
If it isn't Arch, then those automated Windows 11 installers with pre-configurations used by enterprises aren't Windows. Of course they are.
I've done full manual installs and archinstall installs of mainline arch and I would argue endevouros is arch. It's more than just "arch based" it's literally a basic arch install with calamaris. It updates from official arch repos and arch kernal ect.
While I only tell people I use endevouros I do not understand why anyone cares if an endevouros user says they use arch lol. What is the difference between that and something like archinstall besides slightly easier btrfs configs?
I'd consider CatchyOS to be in the arch based category but not EndevourOS
Yeah, I use Endeavour and I would never say I use Arch. I've never installed Arch. That's like the whole thing about it.
for me at least, endevour and cachy dont rlly have an identity, they feel like Arch but easier to install with very little difference in actual use
Does this work for cachyOS too?
Nod-nod!
EndeavourOS is my favorite of most everything so far, and I started back during the Slackware days.
Yes, but CachyOS for me.
So far only one update broke my entire system but luckily snapper was configured in the installation process so i just rolled back and updated 4 days later.
I like endeavorOS, it's the main distro I use on my pcs. I've run arch before (with i3wm and switchable Nvidia graphics) and did for years, but honestly I don't really have the time to properly configure my systems to my liking, so the option to install the sway community edition and just tweak a few settings in the config files is very nice.
I use Arch BTW
I used eos as my main distro before switching to kubuntu and then to cachyos. One of best arch Linux forks. It is just like arch Linux + archinstall but is actually better than it.
i love both, can anyone explain this meme to me?
EndeavourOS makes running an Arch system easier, that's all. Could swap out EndeavourOS with CachyOS and the meme would be the same.
I installed Artix yesterday.
Absent-mindedly.
Meant to install AntiX.
Didn't realise until done.
XD
A silly grep for "tix" (not "tiX") in iso dir, saw the various inits, + dyslexia + haste, went with it thinking I had the right ones to dd to usb. So absent minded all the artix logos in my face didn't phase me through booting and installing. XD
Doesn't really matter. Installed AntiX straight after. Hijacked with bedrocklinux and installing the other to another stratum too anyway. I just wanted antiX for hijack default init stratum from the start, for a more stable (slower-upgrading) base.
Fun that two distros offering init freedom are so similarly named. Just one letter and one capitalisation different. r > n & x > X.
Well. That was fun. LOL.
Can you choose your init in Arch or EndeavourOS yet?
Recently I enabled the Cachyos repositories on my several years old Arch install for the better compiler options and scheduler. It feels snappier now.