There is no statute of limitations on murder, Johnathan Ross. This one is around your neck for life.
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He'll be pardoned by Trump. All of ICE probably will be.
*Supremacy clause https://youtube.com/shorts/Lk6tOvIu4qw this does not look good
Presidential pardons only work for Federal crimes. It also does not protect the murderer from a civil suit (see OJ Simpson).
Border patrol agents have no jurisdiction over US citizens. They didn't have the authority to stop her and try to remove her from her car in the first place so, what they were doing was unlawful from the start. That should disqualify him from using the supremacy clause, before we even get into debate on whether lethal force was justified or not.
ICE isn't border patrol.
As for whether this was part of their duties, that's the question and oh boy this is going to be messy in the courts.
Ah, I thought he was border patrol, but he's ICE, and you're right. ICE also doesn't have jurisdiction over US citizens though. I think it's pretty clear that there was no probable cause to believe she, or her wife, were potentially illegal immigrants, were aiding illegal immigrants, or were impeding the agent's investigation in any way, given that she was initially trying to wave them to go around her.
If/When we have a functioning DOJ again, Ross is going to prison.
Border patrol has jurisdiction within 200 miles of the border or any point of entry including airports and ports. So if they're operating within 200 miles of the Minneapolis airport, they do have the legal authority to detain citizens. It's BS, but that fact has stood up in courts for a long time.
They should have just not said anything dragged their feet while at work while slowly eating up annual/sick leave to really slow everything down. Now there are 4 vacancies that could have been tied up for the better part of a year.
Bingo. Drag your feet, use up time. File shitty motions you know won't work to tie up the courts. Sabotage is hard work, but slowing the gears of the Orphan Crushing Machine is important and actually pretty easy to do when it's the federal government.
It's better strategically but you need to have the strength to do so. Sometimes people are overwhelmed by something and just need to get out of the situation and I think that is OK too. Everyone should do what they are capable off, but it should be fine to just stop doing wrong stuff.
Exactly. It's easy to tell people what they should be doing, from the outside.
I agree with "don't quit, impede" philosophy, but a very public show of support against these fascist actions is not something to dismiss.
We also dont know the situation that led up to them resigning and getting fired. They very well could have been trying to drag their feet but were already under immense pressure to file charges immediately. No amount of feet dragging can help if the Nazis are literally hovering over you as you fill out the paperwork.
even moronic lawyers betting on trump over the constitution have to know there's no way that bloated sack of animated cholesterol is going to make it to 2028, and then where are they? working for couchfucker?
They aren't going to be able to fill these because fed attorney jobs pay dick and there is zero prestige to these postings now.
Well, maybe true for qualified people, the job title is no longer prestigious.
But for the scum of the earth? That job title legitimizes them, by comparison.
I think I know which type will be the ones applying...
Weren't these the people earlier this week who supposedly resigned, of which people were complaining about. Now it comes out they were actually fired before they even could...
Maybe people should realize there might have been more going on that we aren't privy to.
All this 'not good enough' thinking does is breed toxicity and in-fighting. Both of which are not good when trying to form a solidarity.
Some people just don't want to eat shit for a living.
Correct me if I am wrong here: Are there women in ICE? All I have seen are men who look like they are divorced and not paying their child support.
Krusty Gnome heads ICE.
A quick search brings up stats from 10 years ago, and at that time about 7% were women.
No idea what the number is now, but I've seen recent information (news reports, vlogs, etc.) mentioning, and showing women in ICE uniforms.
I believe there are women in ICE, which isn't surprising, but not very many.
Just yesterday, we had the story of a female journalist who claims she was admitted to ICE with no vetting. So, they at least allow women to enter.
What? They want to prosecute the widow? What for? Fucking monsters.
Can they sue for wrongful termination or something?
I'm sure I read some suggestion of charging her with felony murder; as in she committed a felony (anyone's guess what that would even be) and as a result her wife got shot, which somehow makes it her fault.
Almost certainly the felony murder rule. This is a first-year law school concept that they are twisting and perverting - par for the course for this administration - but it basically means that a group committing a felony are all liable for any murders that happen during the course of that felony.
The idea of using it on an innocent murder victim's wife to feed into an already ludicrous narrative that the victim was the perpetrator is outright evil. It's not surprising that these people resigned, because if you have morals, you will feel your skin crawl at the very idea of doing that.
An utterly moronic law in the first place. I remember reading a case where a cop responding to a bank robbery negligently discharged his firarm, killing a colleague, and the robbers got charged with that murder instead of the cop.
Since ICE was there in the first place and shouldn’t have been, shouldn’t we charge them with the murder?
I mean if we’re playing cutesy baby games with the rules, those motherfuckers shouldn’t be operating armed terror squads on US soil and they have no jurisdiction over US citizens, so any assault they make on a US citizen is 100% a felony so I think we should charge Kristi Noem and Pam Bondi right away
The need to dehumanize the victim because even some Republicans are upset that they are shooting white ladies.
Yeah but they'll let it slide because she was LGBTQ... /s
This, but not sarcastic.
As a Minnesotan, I've had a lot of conversations with friends, family, and neighbors lately about what is going on
Most are pissed about ICE being here, and how they're acting. Some, however, are 100% MAGA, and happy ICE is here
There is one thing everyone seems to agree on though: ICE being in Minnesota is political retaliation
We're a state with ~2% of the population of the US. We have less than 2% of the immigrants due to our location and climate. Yet 20-30% of ICE agents are now here
Dumb of her. You have more protections when fired than if you just quit. It's almost always in your best interest to have a shitty boss fire you and have those protections than leave voluntarily and have almost none.
I'm not surprised that Hannity finds it "almost impossible to comprehend" that someone would resign to uphold their principles.
Both of these talking heads are puppets with the hands of the same puppeteer up their asses.
FOX news needs to be destroyed. Preferably with everyone still inside.
She was:
Murdered!
Daily reminder that ICE is a manufactured distraction from the Epstein Files.

“They wanted the taxpayers to pay for them to go on vacation because they decided they didn’t want to support law enforcement,” she said. “So, the breaking news tonight? I fired them all! They are FIRED from the office.”
Not a major point, but when an employee wants to resign they are saying that they want their PTO paid out, as they are entitled to under law or contract. That’s what those former employees were saying. Bondi is saying she fired them, but she will still have to pay out that PTO all the same.
Damn Pam. Ok,you broke up with them. Not the other way around. We got it.
Somebody literally needs to remind this lady to stop and take a breath before she passes out mid rant.
Or maybe we get lucky and she has a stroke.
I so want to see her on the stand at some point. Under oath, and not in an environment controlled by conservatives, either.
The fact that these monsters would even think of going after the victim's wife tells you all you need to know about the conservative mind.
You can't quit! I fired you first! LOL
Man who would think a corrupt AF soulless scumbag like her would do such a thing.
