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If I was on Patreon I'd tell them to pull the app. Fuck em they have a website.
Right? You'd think Patreon would throw their weight against Apple, as this is clearly not in their best interest. Threaten to pull the app, and if Apple follows through, they get nothing. Alternatively, move payments entirely outside of the app and force Apple to either do something which is guaranteed to be extremely unpopular, or call their bluff. But they won't do these things or even try to negotiate Apple's cut.
Apple may appear to swing the biggest dick here, but I am so disgusted by these weak companies just immediately bending over without a fight.
As always, it's the creators who will be faced with hardship, but neither entity seems to give a shit.
I fucking hate mega corps. It's never fucking enough... Ever... Apple has more money than some countries yet these assholes want ever more....
Tax all these assholes into oblivion!
It's wild that Steam is getting a class action lawsuit for charging 30% right now, and Apple doing shit like this at the same percentage and legally is getting a free pass.
I'll throw a hat in the ring here. It's because Steam has a grip on the gaming market that others want instead of them. That's it, they want that money instead of Valve. Apple is getting a pass on this because it's just fucking over the common guy which businesses couldn't care less about.
But Valve doesn't have a monopoly on PC games. You can sell your own game, or sell through GOG. On iPhone, Apple has the monopoly and they abuse it.
Just crank all iOS user payments up by 30%, explain why, and let nature sort itself out.
Patreon gives creators the option to either increase their prices in the iOS app only, or absorb the fee themselves, keeping prices the same across platforms.
It's already an option and if you read the article, only 4% are still on the legacy billing system (no Apple tax at all)
iOS users using a browser don't pay the Apple Tax. And the only reason to pay through the app is if you specifically want to use Apple Pay (e.g to pay with your phone bill instead of your credit card).
At this point it's a "stupid tax" more than anything.
Small clarification. Apple Pay is not really paying with your phone bill. I think you can but most users just have their credit card or debit card linked.
Think. Of. The. Shareholders.
I’m an Apple shareholder and think this is a great way to lose engagement and revenue
Terribly need degoogled android to become popular and/or a normal Linux distribution phone to become popular so that normal Linux market share couldn’t be ignored
I had no idea Apple was so desperate for money
3.78 Trillion dollar market cap. You don't get to that valuation by being generous to your customers. Apple is as capitalist as any of them. They're just wrapped in shiny marketing. Now only if their fans understood that.
Fuck patron. Fuck you Tim Apple. Fuck you both
What's wrong with Patreon? They advertise a 10% fee. It may be a little more complicated than that but 10% seems pretty reasonable considering the services they offer.
They are an American tech company.
From what I remember, they did try to heavily raise fees and worsen the experience on their platform "my next trillion users ... life changing blah blah .. my ARPU", but then backed off when they got public pushback. They will do it again when they think they can get away with it.
Better to use something like liberapay.
That's what I use to donate to Piefed development and I've been meaning try and pitch this platform to my Patreon list.
How is 10% reasonable. They just transfer money from A to B while showing people some static html text about the options. They basically do nothing.
I wouldn’t say these services are nothing. Are they worth 10%? Eh.
A 90/10 split for content creators who otherwise wouldn’t know how to build and operate their own platform doesn’t sound like a terrible deal. It’s not amazing but if there were better options, Patreon may not be so popular.
Edit: I want to clarify. Patreon is a for profit company who has apparently tried raising prices already and back tracked. Eventually, Patreon will try and squeeze out more profit from the creators and the user base will be big enough that Patreon will have the leverage to do so; we’ve all seen it before. I’m not saying Patreon is a good company, I’m not saying they won’t be dicks in the future, I’m not saying the system as it is, is good. I’m only saying 10% isn’t a bad deal when so many other options are worse (ex. Apple taking 30%)
static HTML text, and all of the posts, and images, and audio that they host. not saying that deserves 10% but saying that they do nothing other than payment processing is disingenuous
Luckily I’m about to switch to graphene OS soon. I’ll be forced to make a bunch of changes to choices I made out of convenience in the past
These Silicon Valley parasites are taking way more than a fair share. Every industry is Consolidated and the few gatekeeping corporations left take more than their fair share that is the entire problem. Capitalism does not work without controls. Never has, never will. This absolute free market talk has always been ad hoc, to further the business interests of those making the arguments.
Parasitic Tech must end. It's supposed to help us, not spy on us and steal from us.
Apple App Store and Google Play stores have a market duopoly. They should be forced to forfeit all or most of its fees.