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    [โ€“] emerald@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
    [โ€“] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    5 is brand new when it's only a bit over 10% of your overall life as a hardened, jaded millennial.

    [โ€“] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Yup, Iโ€™ve got socks older than that. And underwear. Actually most of my clothes are older than that, anything newer seems to only last a year or two.

    [โ€“] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I'm still on my desktop build from 2011, except I have slowly upgraded parts over the years like the ship of theseus

    [โ€“] OpenStars@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Just don't get RAM for a bit? ๐Ÿ˜ญ

    [โ€“] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Yeah that's what's holding me back from a big upgrade. 64 GB of RAM is nice, but it's DDR3 and AFAIK I need a whole new mobo and cpu to get to newer DDR

    [โ€“] OpenStars@piefed.social -1 points 2 weeks ago

    I hear that "newest MacBook" is pretty nice. (/s btw, although it probably actually is!:-P)

    [โ€“] klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Rookie numbers. My main one is 14, my older one is almost 25.

    [โ€“] mal3oon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Mofo still on pentium III. Wait few more years, and you can sell it to a museum.

    [โ€“] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
    [โ€“] bobo@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Didn't libreboot remove it on t480?

    [โ€“] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    You canโ€™t remove IME completely, but depending on the generation of the chip you can nerf it somewhat.

    [โ€“] bobo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    You can disable it, and maybe remove it one day completely (I'd count replacing all of the intel code as removing it)

    Libreboot already disables the Intel ME by default, using me_cleaner, but the T480/T480s specifically have an additional quirk:

    One of the benefits of deguard for Intel MEv11 is that it sets the ME in such a state where you can run unsigned code in there. This is how the Intel Boot Guard was disabled, because it is the ME that enforces such restrictions; more information about deguard is available on a dedicated page.

    The deguard utility could also be used to enable the red-unlock hack, which would permit unsigned execution of new CPU microcode, though much more research is needed. Because of these two facts, this makes the T480/T480s the most freedom-feasible of all relatively modern x86 laptops.

    With deguard, you have complete control of the flash. This is unprecedented on recent Intel systems in Libreboot, so itโ€™s certainly a very interesting port!

    Libreboot uses both me_cleaner and deguard on the T480/T480s.

    [โ€“] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Because itโ€™s an 8th gen you can break things in favorable ways. But modern intel systems donโ€™t have that vulnerability. And the ability to fully crush ME has yet to be realized. All we have right now is the ability to confuse it on a per-boot basis.

    AMD has a similar problem thought its arguable less hostile and better executed than intelโ€™s approach. We still want it gone though.

    [โ€“] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

    How reliable is that?

    [โ€“] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

    2001 is xp era. Too new for my taste.

    [โ€“] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Mine is 13, Debian flies on it.

    [โ€“] klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Mine was a meme machine for a while. Old thinkpad with Arch and i3 gaps, switched to Sway, then GNOME

    [โ€“] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Mines about half way there. Debian, i3, kitty, fully Tokyo nights themed, lots of stickers. I havenโ€™t tried playing with transparency and backgrounds yet due to the quite low end video card, small screen size and iffy color quality.

    Yeah, I used to do more WM stuff, but GNOME is like... Halfway there, anyway, and I just haven't felt like customizing the look of my PC in a while, which is where WMs really shine for me in comparison to GNOME

    [โ€“] jaredwhite@humansare.social 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Hehe, I'm actually using a 6 year-old Mac mini M1 running Asahi Fedora, and it kicks ass.

    [โ€“] RedMari@reddthat.com 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    How is the Asahi experience in comparison?

    I'm about to buy my first non-raspberry greenery too - my question (I know too little about the project & Apple ARM issues overall to have any baseline) is if are there any normie issues with updates & use of Firefox (in various water/dog flavours), and maybe Openoffice?

    I want to try it just for the sake of it but don't really need a laptop - I'm wondering if it's a viable/sensible idea to give it to my parents if I won't be using it.

    [โ€“] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

    came to say this basically

    [โ€“] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

    I tried that with the MacBook M1 and just couldnโ€™t get used to the feel of the hardware, I missed that nipple something fierce

    [โ€“] glorkon@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Macbook = Vendor Lock-In as Hardware.

    [โ€“] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    No? You can run Linux on it just fine. They arenโ€™t going to help you do that but they arenโ€™t stopping you either.

    [โ€“] glorkon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    just fine

    Provided it's an older one with an Intel CPU.

    [โ€“] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Up to the M3 is supported thank to the asahi project.

    [โ€“] glorkon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    Yeah, which means you can't just use any Linux you want... sounds almost like, I don't know, a vendor lock-in.

    [โ€“] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

    Itโ€™s not. Asahi is the project that figured out how to get m-series Macโ€™s running Linux. The code they write gets ported out to the rest of the Linux distros too. Asahi has fedora running on these.

    You can use whatever you want. Asahi fedora Linux is just the latest thing for these Macs in Linux land. It launches there and finds its way out to the rest of Linux.

    [โ€“] 10MeterFeldweg@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

    The 5 years old one is the upgrade I think about for my 11 years old Thinkpad.

    Only five years?

    [โ€“] Gerald@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    My iMac 14,1 from late 2013 is running great with 16 GB RAM, 500 GB SSD and Linux Mint.

    [โ€“] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    That thing is 13 years old

    [โ€“] Gerald@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

    YES, that is so great!

    [โ€“] w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Got one in my closet for emergencies.

    [โ€“] knolord@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    5 year old

    I recently upgraded from my W541 to a T470 I got for cheap. And I only upgraded due to hardware decoding features being a tad bit newer on the T470 and USB-C being kinda cool to utilise.