Was gonna say, I do like th modern efficiencies. I'm waiting for a start up to make a heat pump oven
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Heat pumps want low temperature differences, so I'm not sure you're going to have much luck getting a heat pump oven to 475F/~250C.
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Planned obsolescence is a cornerstone of the business model of every large corporation. They're never going to make a product that could challenge that. And no startup will achieve the volume needed to sell these at a price that's even remotely realistic.
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This is basically the context of “Dune”
So I heard you like making machines in the likeness of a human mind...
And then I was all like “thou shalt NOT!”, but get this, a few thousand years later these fuckers on the ninth planet from their star thought they could be all sneaky and shit…
Porteus mills in the uk made such a good product they went out of business in the 1970s. And their mills are still used in the vast majority of distilleries in Scotland.
Porteus mills made such a good product they went out of business.
A lot of appliances could still be viable, but the best refrigerants are all banned. The modern ones supposedly are better for greenhouse effect, but they actively corrode parts of their closed systems, leading to consistent early part failures.
This is the approach galanz did I think except the shitiest patents modernized.
Would a company like that go out of business from not selling the same shit to people over and over?
They can sell easily replaceable components that will break down no matter how well built the appliance is.
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Y'all are going to hate this, but IMO a more viable solution is a subscription model. The more reliable an appliance is, the less you spend on it in the long run, so less profit for the manufacturer. With a subscription, the more reliable they make it, the more profit they get. Then you just need sufficient competition to keep the subscription prices low.
Then you'd run into the same problem you have with insurance where they refuse to fix/replace your appliance because of "misuse" or something like that.
The problem here is the for-profit model that drives mass (over-)production and planned obsolescence.
We can do away with this if a company embraces a completely different model. Instead of doing the usual thing, go 100% on-demand with pre-orders, and only build what people want to buy. Then, keep moving horizontally into other product lines, following the demand and manufacturing need. Once pre-orders hit a given theshold, manufacturing starts for a given product. This eliminates all kinds of overhead and allows the company to survive by investing in multiple revenue streams. As a bonus: it's a lot less wasteful since you never make more units than you can sell.
Subscriptions are like insurance and gym memberships. They're profitable only if they represent value that is never fully realized by the consumer. They're a really bad tax, and people dislike them for good reason. I want to buy a thing from a company, and that's all; it's not my responsibility to keep them afloat after that transaction.
Subscriptions are like insurance and gym memberships. They're profitable only if they represent value that is never fully realized by the consumer.
Think of your monthly spending as a probability distribution. They provide value by reducing variance of that distribution at the cost of increasing the mean.
Consider at a more concrete example. You're provided with two options:
- You get $100 a month guaranteed
- Flip a coin each month. On head, you get $200. On tail, you get nothing.
The expected value for both are the same, but option #1 is predictable. It's the better option of the two unless you're in a situation where getting $0 is effectively equivalent to getting $100. You would need to increase the amount you get in option #2 to make it worthwhile. Similarly, you can decrease the amount you get in option #1 and still have it be the better option.
By default, life is like option #2. The value proposition of insurance and the like is to give you option #1 with an amount lower than the expected value of #2, and in exchange, they get the difference as profit.
Where energy efficiency isn't a concern (maybe a blender or a toaster) this sounds nice, but otherwise...well...lots of wasted energy.
(Of course, it all has to be balanced against the cost of manufacturing/disposing.)
Different tech peaks at different times, toasters was a great example. Every change in the last 70 years has just been making them cheaper. Thick metal okd-school fridge with a modern inverter compressor would be pretty cool
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Mostly survivorship bias
People are just gonna keep reposting this one day after day huh.