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In English, the word "milk" has been used to refer to "milk-like plant juices" since 1200 CE.[11]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_milk

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[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Thats bit of history is super cool, thanks for sharing! I will remember that

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 32 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, are you telling me milk thistle doesn’t come from cows?

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 hours ago

Next thing I know you're going to tell me peanut butter comes from peanuts!?

[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Coconuts have fur and produce milk. Definitely a mammal

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 51 minutes ago

Eh... It definitively doesn't have fur. Are you talking about some interstitial tissue?

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You're just hopped up on milk of paradise from the poppy for thinking this.

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip -5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Y'all love an argument from etymology when it's something you have an ideological interest in. Otherwise, of course, you're all "it doesn't matter what it used to mean - language usage changes literally everyday bro so you should use it the way I want you to".

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

That works for the plant milk folk here. "Language changes literally everyday bro" arguments fall apart pretty quick:

"Milk changed back to include plants, bro."

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Not according to the UK. Also, thanks for proving my point.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

"Language changes unless my favored language authority says it doesn't." I honestly do not understand how you could take a perscriptive stance in FAVOR of language changes. It's pretty much like looking at 1984 and saying "yes, this is the correct way of language evolution."

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

That's exactly what's wrong with this post - thanks for putting it so succinctly.

Edit in response to your edit: you have no idea what my stance is, because I haven't stated one other than "y'all are hypocrites".

Completely aside from the post, as a linguist my stance is always "language always changes, and meaning is determined by usage", because both of those positions are demonstrably correct.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This post is prescriptive based on etymology. You're being prescriptive based on regulation. You're not making a descriptive argument that would be strong in this case(but wrong because casual usage DOES include plant milk so that's why I don't think you're doing it). You're making a fucking bizzaro world argument.

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Make sure to check out my edit in response to your edit.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Uh huh. So your argument is you secretly don't have one but are pointing in the general direction that maybe there's an argument somewhere here and it's right.

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

No, I made the argument quite explicit. Since it still seems to have gone over your head somehow, I'll simplify it here:

"Y'all hate etymological arguments right up to the point that they appear to support your position, and then suddenly you're in love with them. That makes y'all hypocrites."

That's all. That's my argument. You're correct that it's right, of course.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Oh I see. Your argument that vegans or Lemmy users have a particular linguistic theory. I have to admit, I did kind of miss the idea that you had that sort of insight while telling everyone they don't know what your personal opinion is in other posts. Primarily because the idea is so pants on head. I'm also glad you have intimate knowledge of the language usage of gestures vaguely the UK in regards to plant milk.

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Clearly you either lack the ability to engage in good faith or have reading comprehension issues, so I think I'll leave the conversation here. Have a good one.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I gave up on you having good faith in this thread a long long while back hoss, if you haven't noticed.

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 1 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago)

Everything here has been in good faith on my part; I was giving you the benefit of the doubt (and wasting my time in the process, it seems). Very appropriate for the thread in question, I guess.