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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's shocking to Douek, because she is a close-watcher of what's known as "jawboning," when regulators or government officials pressure private actors, like a social media company or broadcast network, to stifle speech. The libertarian Cato Institute calls the practice "censorship by proxy."

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Legally, this seems similar to the situation with Biden talking to social media companies to "stifle" vaccine misinformation. Federal courts intervened in that and limited what that admin could do.

Although it's pretty clear that Biden was on the wrong side of Calvinball Rule #2 in the Roberts court.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 20 points 9 months ago

There is a difference between the two situations in that the government has a compelling interest in limiting speech that could harm people through the spread of misinformation. Like the classic “yelling fire in a crowded theatre” metric of what is not considered free speech.

In the case of Kimmel talking about Kirk, there is no compelling interest at play, as there is no possible direct harm to other people in saying literally anything about the guy, true or false.

I dont think the covid thing actually met the full description of a threat. They had strategy discussions and said "we want to prevent this issue", but they didn't go as far as Carr did by laying out punishments for non-compliance. It was just idea sharing among experienced peers.

Or maybe I'm remembering the details wrong.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 14 points 9 months ago

That's only relevant if the law is upheld

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

The law is fucking meaningless when you can't enforce it

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

Is that Deep Throat's new codename