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[–] fell@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

My wife is Australian, but we live in Germany now. Last year, she was craving "Honey Chicken" which is ubiquitous at Chinese takeaway places in Australia. None of the Chinese places in Germany knew what I was talking about. Turns out Honey Chicken is a purely Australian invention.

[–] frog@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds good! Is it close to orange chicken or General Tso's chicken in the USA?

[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We have honey chicken commonly in the US too. It is essentially orange chicken without the orange flavor/color.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

So, chicken? /s

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah our "Chinese" places usually just do chicken in a bunch of ways that may or may not be from Asia.

Chicken with Broccoli, Chicken and snow peas or mixed vegetables, Moo Goo Gai Pan, Curry Chicken, Szechuan Chicken, Mongolian Chicken, Kung Pao, Chicken with Cashews, Hunan with black bean sauce, hot and spicy, black pepper w/ onion, Coconut, sweet and sour, lemon, honey, sesame, Bourbon, Orange, General Tsos.

Is it all Chinese influence, no. The people making it know, the people eating it know, but if they called it "Chicken Many ways" then you wouldn't know they sold dumplings, pork and what not, lol.

[–] strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@fell
> Turns out Honey Chicken is a purely Australian invention

Like butter chicken from Indian restaurants ... in the anglophone world only, apparently. What is with us anglophones and our propensity for consuming jungle fowl in yellowish fluids?

@FoxtrotDeltaTango

[–] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If I'm not mistaken, butter chicken is indigenous but tikka masala is the BIR style dish.

[–] strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@RecursiveParadox
> butter chicken is indigenous but tikka masala is the BIR style dish

Wikipedia agrees with you. I'm convinced. Who knew? I guess maybe the names confused the people who told me that. A name like "tikka masala" sounds traditional, while I can't think of anything more anglophone sounding than "butter chicken" ; )

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[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl -4 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Plain hotdog and Cheeseburger, are staple american foods lol.

And deep fried butter.

You guys have your own cuisine, it's just a lame one.

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[–] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Umm... it's not mexican, chinese or italian but also american food doesn't exist?

I can't tell if this was the joke or the meme just wants to shit on americans for stealing and mangling everyone's food...

Also, jalapeño poppers.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

I think the joke is that Americans like to adopt foods or cooking techniques from other cultures, then change them to fit local tastes. This is how a lot of "traditional American" foods came to be. There is also a stereotype that American cultural practices (gastronomy included) are "not real" or that American culture as a concept doesn't exist because it comes as a fusion of cultural practices from other countries. The meme is poking fun at people who may hold that belief.

People also have a habit of describing the American versions of things to be "not real", even if it never really claims to be. For example, fettuccine Alfredo in the US is an adaptation of fettuccini al burro (a real Italian dish), but is described as "not real Italian food" because it isn't actually eaten in Italy. Or that orange chicken is "not real Chinese food" because it isn't eaten in China. Which, to be fair, is true, but most American diners are aware that Panda Express, Olive Garden, and Taco Bell aren't accurate representations of food eaten in China, Italy, or Mexico. They're Americanised versions of food inspired by Chinese, Italian, and Mexican cuisine.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 24 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Notably, Americans are not the only culture that does this.

There's a Thai dish called 'American Fried Rice' for instance.

American fried rice is a Thai fried rice dish with "American" side ingredients like fried chicken, ham, sausages, raisins, and ketchup.[1] Other ingredients like pineapples and croutons are optional.

At least in any part of America I've been to, this is certainly not something you can get here.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure all cultures adapt and learn from other cultures. That's just how human culture develops. Vietnamese takes on French favourites resulted in bahn mi and Vietnamese coffee, both of which are very good. Poor Hongkongers wanting to eat like Brits resulted in Hong Kong's famously weird "Cha chaan teng" food and Hong Kong-style milk tea. And, of course, Europeans went crazy over Mesoamerican chocolate and created a cornucopia of confectionery products made from the cacao bean.

[–] irate944@piefed.social 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You’re right, this is normal. Off the top of my head:

  • tempura originated because of the trade between the portuguese and japanese

  • portuguese monopoly on cinnamon trade with Sri Lanka and India, allowed Europe to get it for cheap and it became a main ingredient in a lot of desserts and confections

  • the UKs tea culture came from a portugese noblewoman, who learned it from China

Cultures are constantly taking ideas from each orher

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[–] Retail4068@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

We're the ones who get shit over it though.

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[–] Retail4068@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (23 children)

America has, by a long shot, the most diverse and some of the best food on the plant. Go to one of the big three and you can have 3 star Michellin from every continent or some of the best street meat shit you'll have on the same day.

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

[off topic?]

Great classic mystery novel, "Too Many Cooks" by Rex Stout. Nero Wolfe is a 300 pound private detective who hates leaving his Manhattan brownstone. He investigates from his armchair, sending his assistant Archie Goodwin to round up clues and bring him folks to interrogate.

Wolfe is a famous gourmand and is invited to give a speech on American food to a group of European chefs.

Interesting novel on many levels.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I feel like if you know what typical American breakfast foods are, "breakfast taco" is pretty self-explanatory.

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[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

First they say 'that is not our food'.
Then the say 'all you do is eat our food'.
Make up your minds.

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Tbf the kind of cultural fusion cuisine you get when another culture successfully imports another culture's cuisine, is super interesting to me. I'd say this stands separately from intentional fusion restaurants, this is more something that happens organically as a cuisine is adapted to the ingredients and tastes somewhere away from where it is invented.

The classic examples are Tex-mex and British curries, but every country has a few things like this. Japanese Italian is a pretty cool experience, not least of all because now I think about it there's some places that are straight up Japanese/Italian cultural fusion, but others are more Japanese/Italian-American, so this thing can go deeper. And don't get me started on the godlike German/Turkish magic happening on the streets of Berlin

Always been a fan of trying local cuisine when I've travelled, but I've more recently been trying to add places like the above into the mix, as it's genuinely always been interesting to me

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