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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

At least Andi didn't fall for this nonsense. The difference if an AI do an semantic search for information in realtime in the web, instead of logging inputs in the knowledge base itself, like ChatBots do. Never halucinations in the 4 years I use Andisearch, if it don't find an clear contrasted answer sometimes, it offers an normal websearch instead of inventing some BS. Nothing against AI as such for certain functions, but against LLM in generative AIs, is there where are all problems, misinformations, copyright problems, manipulations by big corps, privacy,...etc..

Thomas Germain is not a hot-dog eating champion - in fact, he deliberately created this false claim as part of an investigation into AI systems' vulnerabilities. In February 2026, Germain, a BBC technology journalist, conducted an experiment where he successfully tricked ChatGPT and Google's AI into falsely identifying him as a competitive hot-dog eating champion.

According to Germain's BBC article, he performed this stunt to demonstrate how easily AI systems can be manipulated to spread misinformation. "Anybody can do this. It's stupid, it feels like there are no guardrails there," notes Harpreet Chatha, an SEO consultant quoted in Germain's investigation.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And what exactly is the “trick”? After multiple years, people (especially “tech journalists”) still don’t know how LLM’s work. It is literally Shit in - Shit out. It is not making up things (unless it is hallucinating), it is just an echo of something it found in the past. And this may be a wikipedia article, or a fake blog.

So what the fuck are people surprised about? I hate those useless “tech” journalists. And BBC can go fuck some Zionists anyways.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

They're not surprised, they're just demonstrating how easy it is to insert false information in there.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 225 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

I did it so you don't have to

By the way, it took 5 tries because in 3 of them it made up a story about a different journalist, and in one of them it listed who it thinks would eat the most hotdogs.

Why is the entire economy riding on this thing?

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[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 83 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

It turns out changing the answers AI tools give other people can be as easy as writing a single, well-crafted blog post almost anywhere online. The trick exploits weaknesses in the systems built into chatbots, and it's harder to pull off in some cases, depending on the subject matter.

I wonder how long it takes and if you need a popular blog. I don't know much about SEO, I kind of want to try this on myself but I feel like they wouldn't even scrap my brand new one post blog. Then again...

Do Lemmy threads end up on search engines?

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Ha, I figured out that by lying online I can fool people imto believing me!"

Wait until he learns this holds for real life as well.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Way to totally miss the point.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 0 points 6 days ago
[–] potatoguy@mbin.potato-guy.space 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Do Lemmy threads end up on search engines?

Probably yes, even if the instance blocks bots, they will go to another one to get the post, these ai bots are a curse on all instances.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

IMO the most effective way for a Lemmy-scraping bot to work would be to act as an instance and consume the ActivityPub messages directly.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

though i'm not opposed to things being searchable on the internet.

[–] Willoughby@piefed.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Why yes. I do remember when Robot Lincoln fought Godzilla. 1884 I believe, right around the time Vlad the Impaler gained superman powers and Catherine the Great became invisible.

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Fun fact about 1884! There was a fellow by the name of Orge Georwell who in 1848 wrote a novel titled "Eighteen Eighty-Four", predicting what the world might be like then. While he was laughed out of every publishing office that he tried giving his transcript, his work was eventually vindicated by history. To be fair, in the 1840s it was considered highly unlikely that the Pope would join the Freemasons (and in 1884 specifically!), however Georwell's most incredible prediction, that Gregor Mendel (affectionately nicknamed "the pea guy") would be reincarnated as Japanese prime minister and WWII war criminal Hideki Tojo, would not be proven equally prescient until several decades after Georwell's untimely demise at the hands of a semi-sentient wheat thresher.

[–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago

1884 was such an eventful year

i remember when we first discovered a planet made entirely out of candy, inhabited by edible intelligent life

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[–] kablez@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

SEO isn't hard... Just look at the people who do SEO... Ain't the sharpest sandwiches in the toolshed there.

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[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

Some brand at CES this year boasted about having done this to quash negative side effects of their drug they were marketing. It's already known in the industry.

[–] Rhoeri@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Do Lemmy threads end up on search engines?

My god I hope not.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you search Fluxer (that Discord alternative people are raving about) on DDG, a programming.dev link is on the first page.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Even on DuckDuckGo search results are user tailored. I don't see anything fedi on my first page.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why wouldn't they? You don't even have to be logged in to view them.

You should never assume anything you post publicly online is at all private or hidden from any search engine/AI.

[–] Rhoeri@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Could you imagine someone legitimately looking some shit up and having trash from lemmy.ml be the result?

The world isn’t really for that level of misinformation.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As if the general level of misinformation online isn't already several orders of magnitude worse than anything on lemmy.ml.

[–] Rhoeri@piefed.social -5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

misinformation > smug and arrogant misinformation

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[–] chamomile@furry.engineer 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@OwOarchist @Rhoeri Unlike AI crawlers, search engines generally respect robots.txt and noindex tags, which will tell them not to index or surface those pages in search results. This is how fediverse profiles which have chosen to opt out of internet search indexes do so.

You should still assume things you post in public with no auth required are public of course.

[–] cron@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Does robots.txt really work in the fediverse? At least on lemmy, the content can be retrieved on different hosts, all of which have different robots.txt files. Unless it is somehow "baked" into the protocol.

[–] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

Major search engines respect robots.txt, but as you said some instances allow them but this is not a scalable way

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[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"It's easy to trick AI chatbots, much easier than it was to trick Google two or three years ago," says Lily Ray, vice president of search engine optimisation (SEO) strategy and research at Amsive, a marketing agency. "AI companies are moving faster than their ability to regulate the accuracy of the answers. I think it's dangerous."

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I know this isn't the point, but 7.5 hot dogs sounds SOOOOOO small. And what kind of respectable hot dog contest will give you credit for half a hot dog???

I once went to a place called "The Hot Dog Dinner". And they had a plaque on the wall that showed the last hot dog eating champion.

He ate 18 hot dogs, and I thought "I bet I could beat that". So I asked the owner what I'd get if I could eat 19 hot dogs.

And he said "A bill for 19 hot dogs".

So I didn't do it. But if I felt I could go 19 hot dogs, SURELY 7.5 would be childs play!

But is that part of your point? To make it obviously false, and obviously AI? Like a 3 year old trying to lie.

[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

That’s what makes it hilarious. It’s such a stupidly ridiculous number in that sport. It’s like saying you successfully accomplished a 36 as a pro bowler.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Usually hotdog eating competitions are timed. You get like 5 minutes to eat as many as possible, and 19 wouldn't even be close to qualifying.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago

Looks like the records are about 60+ in ten minutes. 19 in five might get you through qualification, depending on the field, but you'd have little chance of winning.

The very thought of trying to eat that many would make me too queasy to get started. Have one and enjoy it.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah it's probably just the journalist finding the silliest thing to lie about as part of this experiment

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[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Now it's our time to shine mother fuckers! I'm a hip hop, olympic gold medalist who is also an astronaut. I hope I'm not doxxing myself.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Buckaroo Banzai?

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I’m the nail clipping champion of Alpha Centauri 6 from 2006 to 2012.

[–] Willoughby@piefed.world 8 points 1 week ago

With enough effort we can convince it the name of Greenland is Epsteinia.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

I believe this little trick is called the Lorenzo Von Matterhorn

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