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California’s new bill requires DOJ-approved 3D printers that report on themselves targeting general-purpose machines.

Assembly Member Bauer-Kahan introduced AB-2047, the “California Firearm Printing Prevention Act,” on February 17th. The bill would ban the sale or transfer of any 3D printer in California unless it appears on a state-maintained roster of approved makes and models… certified by the Department of Justice as equipped with “firearm blocking technology.” Manufacturers would need to submit attestations for every make and model. The DOJ would publish a list. If your printer isn’t on the list by March 1, 2029, it can’t be sold. In addition, knowingly disabling or circumventing the blocking software is a misdemeanor.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I guess that'd make open-source firmware illegal.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

That's just a happy by-product for them.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 hours ago

Just messaged my assembly member asking to vote against it. I suggest those who live in the state to do the same thing too.

[–] osanna@thebrainbin.org 10 points 2 hours ago

Land Of The Free^TM

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The last half of the 2020's is going to be remembered as when we lost all anonymity and privacy.

I guarantee by the end of the decade we get on-device snitches (to protect the children!) that profile and report everything you do, everything you type, everything you view.

Just leave me alone. Let me think my thoughts.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Then refuse to participate. Use open source software and any other kind of system outside their control until they throw you in jail. That's what I'll be doing. If enough of us do they can't jail us all. Participation is consent.

[–] MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de 40 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

Sorry, I’m just a guy from overseas trying to understand why, in a country where 1 out of 4 people possess weapons, the 3D printer is the problem. I mean, there are companies selling industrial-grade firearms—why the heck is the 3D printer the target?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

Because between them, the legislators don't have two brain-cells to rub together and figure out why this is an un-enforceable bunch of bullshit.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 hour ago

Because it doesn't make money for Big War

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 12 points 3 hours ago

Because it makes firearms available to people without having to jump through hoops the government can track, but they can make a machine that makes flexi-dragons into a boogyman, so they throw a "protect the children" in the bill and it automatically passes.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago

Because it makes for a good distraction from actual problems that they don't care to solve because those problems would require them to heavily tax millionaires and billionaires.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 hours ago

Because our government is run by old dumbasses.

[–] Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc 7 points 3 hours ago

This is true and very underreported.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 96 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

If they were smarter, which they are not, they would look to place restrictions on the slicer software. I doubt the printers even have the capability to recognize what is being printed. Most of them are like move left 3 steps, extrude .1mm of filament, move right 1 step…. yada yada yada.

This is just insanely dumb. They are essentially trying to regulate technology they know very little about.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 17 minutes ago

This is a lost battle either way but a non-lost opportunity to acquire some power

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Frankly it seems more like a mild inconvenience then actual prevention. I don't really care how smart a software gets, it can't predict and prevent all possible configurations of prints that could possibly be used to create functioning guns without being so overly restrictive that even perfectly innocent prints would get flagged constantly in which case they simple won't sell to normal users.

It would be a constant game of whack a mole with new creative designs, using multiple printers or with non-printed parts in the design. But no hardware or software that a smart enough engineer has their hands on is impervious to mods either, especially if they're motivated like someone seeking to produce firearms would be.

It's an overreaching law that will likely solve little to nothing, but might make 3d printers in general a bit more annoying to work with. "Sorry, you can't make your dice tower because there's a 16 percent change that it could be capable of firing an RPG out of the dragon's mouth. Please make your design at least 12 percent less gun-ish and try again."

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Wow. I hadn’t even thought about some of these ways around this. Excellent points!!

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 62 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

They are essentially trying to regulate technology they know very little about.

That's not surprising, that's just what politicians do. Especially politicians who are 65+ years old and completely out of touch with technology.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 26 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I am reminded of a senator from Alaska trying to describe the internet as a series of tubes.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago

That was way more accurate and intelligent than this. Like orders of magnitude.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 hours ago

Sen Ted Stevens, rest in piss.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This is why politicians should be automatically retired at 65. We shouldn't be allowing people who grew up without seatbelts to make any decisions involving technology.

[–] sleep_deprived@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

FWIW, the person that proposed this legislation is 47: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Bauer-Kahan

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 25 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

So in other words, what else is new?

The danger if this passes isn't that someone will be able to successfully implement some manner of system for identifying gun parts which will, apparently, rely on pixie dust and magic. In reality this will effectively prohibit 3D printer sales in California entirely because compliance is literally impossible. And it'll and give overreaching cops and prosecutors yet another nonsense charge they can arbitrarily slap people with over "circumventing" this mystical technology which does not in fact exist if they, ye gods forbid, build their own printer.

It's the same horseshit rationale as the spent casing "microstamping" fantasy that legislators have been salivating about for decades. It doesn't work, it'll never work, but that's not going to stop them from wishing it does and therefore turning it into a defacto ban.

Keep in mind, California also has the precedent of their infamous approved handguns list, which notoriously does things like arbitrarily declaring that the black version of some model of gun is legal, but possession of the stainless version of the exact same gun is a felony. We're not dealing with people in possession of any type of rationality, here.

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[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 3 points 3 hours ago
[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 49 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

This is coordinated. Multiple states at the same time.

I don’t think it has anything to do with guns. Middle of the bell curve, most people aren’t using these for guns. They’re using these for right to repair. They’re using these for garage businesses. Shop businesses. Small businesses. (See: not corporate USA). Or for making/creatimg.

I’ve no doubt there are people sitting on some small slice of a tail on the bell curve who do print gun parts, but this is about corporate America.

It’s also a foot in the door dig on free and open source software.

It’s a way to block individual and small business from horning in on corporate America’s profit for a comparably tiny slice of their own.

Printing a knob to replace a broken on/off switch instead of buying a whole new item? Worse, selling that item or even just posting the pattern for free? We can’t have that.

Now, you’re bypassing my item’s proprietary system by printing…

Wait. I was able to sell threaded hand screw knobs for $5 each. Now you’re all just printing them? And the pattern is up there for free?

We need a law.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

It is nothing less than, I say without exaggeration, a war on property rights as a whole.

[–] freshcow@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

Great points, I think you're on to something.
I think the old saying "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity" doesn't apply when malice and corporate interests are in alignment. Now I'm curious to dig into who actually wrote the bill, and who are they financially supported by...

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 56 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

This is stupid.

You easily tell who is 3D printing guns because they have one hand and bits of plastic barrel stuck in their faces.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 3 points 56 minutes ago

On the contrary, there was a very interesting video by PSR (pardon the YouTube link) about how the civil war in Myanmar was being fought almost exclusively with 3D printed firearms. Apparently they're reliable enough to be an actual threat.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 7 hours ago (13 children)

"3d printing guns" isn't about the pressure holding parts, it's about the traceable serial number holding parts. On most firearms the "lower assembly" or "receiver" (frame, trigger group, feeding assy) is legally considered the firearm and is what bears the serial. Most of those can be printed and use off the shelf hardware to work, albeit with a much lower lifespan.
Pressure containing wear parts that are meant to be exchanged (barrel and breech bolt) typically do not carry serials and are thus not normally traceable. If you eliminate the serialized, traceable part of the firearm, then any collection of parts could be used.

That said, eliminating an entire hobby and industry because gun serialization laws haven't been updated in a hundred years is probably not the right way to do it.

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[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

'Kay. They do know these things are barely capable of being networked, right?

[–] Sharpiemarker@startrek.website 34 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Which unfortunately means the base price for a California-legal 3d printer is going to be exorbitant.

[–] DosDude@retrofed.com 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Just build your own with a kit. Hell, call it a CNC filler. This was a DIY hobby from the start. I don't see how this can be regulated.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

I don’t see how this can be regulated.

That's the neat part: it can't. Which means attempting to do so anyway basically abolishes all property rights.

And thus the true purpose of the legislation is revealed.

[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 27 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

Just when I think California couldn't possibly come up with dumber laws, they deliver yet again.

There's genuine concerns they could be addressing but instead go after something that's going to be near impossible for them to enforce.

Blueprints for homemade 3D printers exist that can be built with a pretty short list of parts from Digikey.

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[–] eli@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago
  1. The printer doesn't know what it is printing, the slicer does, and at that point just use an open source slicer
  2. Just drive to Arizona, Nevada, or Oregon, buy a printer, and drive back, The MicroCenter in Phoenix just opened up.
[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I could make a working metal gun in a day with hand tools and a trip to home depot. Guns aren't magical complicated devices. It's a handle and a tube and a pin that smacks a bullet.

This bill is the epitome of stupid and one of the reasons the left has had so many issues becoming the party leaders. Stop trying to play "big brother" and stop trying to fuck with the 2nd amendment.

[–] E_coli42@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What do you mean "the left"? The farther left you go, the more people see firearms as important for the people to fight oppression. Karl Marx—pretty much as far left as you can go—was very adament about wokers owning guns.

I think you are trying to refer to authoritarians.

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I think he was referring to liberals, which most leftists do not consider to be part of them at all.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

They wanna plug their ears and pretend slam fire pipe shotguns aren't a thing. Like seriously all you need is two short pipes, a cap and a bolt for the firing pin. You can use the sidewalk to grind down the bolt so you don't even need another tool.

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