Vegan milks are nice to drink, but they are very very different to real milk. Having tea with oat milk is a sacrifice (almond and coconut are worse for tea - they lack the sweetness that counteracts the bitter elements of tea), it doesn't taste as good but it's ok. It's a small sacrifice to make, but a persistent one (given that many of us rely on caffeine to function at work).

There is a moral argument to be made, and the moral argument has the high ground if you avoid looking too carefully (nothing in life is simple).

The real crux of the vegan argument is "can people also sacrifice this", or is it one sacrifice too many in the world of compromises we endure. That's a personal choice, and given the state of the world today, it isn't one many will be able to make.

....My cow can't get pregnant no matter how many times I...... Hey there buddy! Wrong hole!

Look, I just like cheese okay?

ITT: Animal abuse apologia

Veganism is such an elite issue like some people will fight everything except billionaires and the rich.

Veganism cant be and shouldnt be promoted especially in global south where children are still malnourished. Veganism also leads to dehumanization of certain cultures.

Fruit is perfectly wholesome and natural though. Except they aren't....

Corn is basically a bulge of semen because of how humans have bred it.

Bananas are incapable of reproducing. All bananans you find in the supermarket are clones. If men were to die out, so would the common (cavendish) banana.

Cows are bred for milk production. If it wasn't for men, their milk production would be very different. It's just as natural as a banana.