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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Electioneering is a power reserved to the states. So, this order is ignorable.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So are dozens of others, that didn't stop them from being enforced and acted up on.

Unlike the laws that our constitution outlines, which are not enforced or observed.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

that didn’t stop them from being enforced and acted up on.

Well, technically congress can invent a financial reward for following its legislative incentives. So, Congress can essentially bribe a state into followibg its ideals, but a state can opt out in favor of self governance so long as it does jot interfere with a power expressed to Congress nor violate the amendments to the us constitution via the 14th and 15th Amendments. So, a state cannot create voting test laws and the such, but they can decide what a district does or doesn't look like.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's an executive order, it doesn't have that power.

Yet states and other agencies will "make it happen" as if it does.

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Can't win without cheating or rigging. Sounds right for the Party of Pedos.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 118 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Blatantly unconstitutional. The voting is directly controlled by the state constitutions, not the fed. Even congress would need to amend the constitution to do this, but we'll see how the bench legislators in SCOTUS rule.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Congress could probably do it, but it would have to be functional to do so. Which it very much is not.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Republicans seems to interpret the constitution like christians interpret the bible

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Aka. they don't even read it.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 23 hours ago

Or cherry pick the pieces they want to pay attention to. Well, you must not fuck around on your wife, but if you are crashing Grindr servers at RNC or touching someone's kid, it is obviously okay.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

tbf, i don't think most of us have read it since grade school. that said, at least some of us respect it.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Constitution no longer matters when all branches of power fail to uphold it and instead collude with the Orange King.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

SCOTUS already crossed that line with Trump v. Anderson.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not really the same, that ruling was for the Fourteenth Amendment disqualification because Trump engaged in insurrection against the United States, that states can't individually determine if someone engaged in insurrection.

Article 1 of the constitution outlines clearly that states manage the time, place and manner of elections:

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

if i had thought there were any actual chance we were going to have legitimate elections in the future i might care a little more.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No, this is one we should be concerned about. Eliminate mail-in voting, and democrats won't win another election again. The vast majority of people vote by mail.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

He can't eliminate mail-in voting by executive order.

And before you say 'he doesn't care about the law he'll do it anyway,' no state that isn't already fallen to the crazy will acknowledge such an order.

This is an obvious distraction. One you are falling for.

[–] greasewizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

he actuy said those words at the last zelensky meeting

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

as if it even matters at this point

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 62 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Among other serious problems, this would disenfranchise all military service members stationed or deployed outside their home state. The Democrats really should be making a big deal out of that.

[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Oh but it's not going to effect them at all because you see, they're using absentee ballots which are a totally different and completely secure thing."

Actual talking point I've seen floating around already.

[–] khornechips@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago

Okay! Then let’s just switch everyone over to those! Can’t wait to hear how that’s impossible for reasons.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Hahaha no. This will not include them.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also those of us not in the military but living fulltime outside the US :/

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

if i were one of those people living abroad i'd probably just renounce my citizenship at this point.

Can we just replace the president with AI? I would be more confident at that point.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (11 children)
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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gonna have to draft a constitutional amendment dumass

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He'll just shut down USPS for the 6 weeks leading up to the next election.

[–] bluemellophone@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oregon has been entirely state-wide mail-in voting for decades. Good luck shutting down an entire state’s mail for more than a month.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I mean, it already worked didn't it?

First term the USPS was taken from a trusted, consistent, and reliable way to move mail. I to something that a considerable number of people no longer trust BECAUSE it was sabotaged.

All he has to do is continue sabotaging our institutions, then they will no longer be effective, and can be cut down with public approval. Since voters have the memories of gnats.

It doesn't need to shut down, it just needs to be made ineffective, gutted, and sold to UPS & FedEx for pennies on the dollar. So private corps can benefit from our public investments, to our detriment.

[–] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

"Remember, the States are merely an 'agent' for the Federal Government in counting and tabulating the votes. They must do what the Federal Government, as represented by the President of the United States, tells them, FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COUNTRY, to do," Trump wrote.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-vows-target-mail-in-ballots-ahead-2026-midterm-election-2025-08-18/

Just gonna leave that right there.

[–] uss_entrepreneur@startrek.website 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit he really does think he is a king. This is terrifying.

The constitution explicitly gives this power to the states. Even if it didn’t it would be up to congress.

Holy fuck. He needs to be 25th amendmented and drug out of the White House.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

We don't need the 25th Amendment. He is in blatant defiance of the Constitution he swore to protect. It is yet another instance of a thing that anyone else would be impeached over.

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[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

"STatE rIGhtS"

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Executive. Orders. Are. Not. Laws.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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