How many times do we have to fall for this garbage. Well I guess if your doing it to scam dumb rich people be my guest, but this shit is dumb.
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Oh no, the same scam again, when will people realize that putting dehumidifiers in the desert, where there is little to none humidity in the air does not produce significant quantities of water.
You can claim that your solution produces thousands of liters of water, but in practice its obvious that you cannot extract more water than what's already im the air, once you extract it, there is nothing left, it may work at first, but is not going to work continuously forever.
This is another example of a promised technology scam, pay me for the development and once it doesn't work, disappear with the money. People keep falling for it for some reason.
This has been debunked before. To get 1000liter of water out of the air, the air needs to hold that much water.
There have been so many of these devices promoted in Kickstarter, dragons den, etc.
I'm highly sceptical, as so far scientists have told me there simply isn't that much moist in the desert air to get even one liter of clean water per day. You simply cannot create water out of nothing.
Finally, I can achieve my dreams of becoming a moisture farmer.
Gonna head to Tashi Station every week?
Hope you enjoy a whiny nephew
I swear to god if that kid brings up the academy one more time, just kill me
But crying about not getting to go to Tashii station is okay?
Shut the FUCK up we have a shed literally full of power converters, your friends are absolute trash anyway and come on what kind of name even is "Biggs Darklighter" it sounds like his parents were from a Flash Gordon ripoff
He gets it from his father
Here's a back-up, science paper on MOF from Nature with measured numbers. 8 liters per KG per day isn't 1000 gallons until you get to 2 tons ... but it's about 200 liters per out of 25 KG ... easily carried.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-58405-9
"The effects of temperature, relative humidity, and powder bed thickness on the adsorption-desorption process are explored for achieving optimal operational parameters. We found that Zr-MOF-808 can produce up to 8.66 LH2O kg−1MOF day−1, an extraordinary finding that outperforms any previously reported values for MOF-based systems.... "
Yet again, nobody seems to be giving a thought what this means to organisms that are living in the desert. This water is necessary for life and we’re taking it.
As someone who has thought about it, could you provide the data that you used to come to the conclusion that the amount of water being extracted from the air has any appreciable effect on local life?
From my thinking...
Death Valley covers 7800km^2.. Atmospheric moisture is typically contained in the first 10km of air. So there is somewhere around 2.5 quadrillion cubic feet of air containing 114 billion gallons of water.
The average Atmospheric Water Vapour Residence Time is around 8 days The median is 5 days and Death Valley's topography is a valley which would trap more moisture, but we'll use the average instead.
This represents a moisture turnover rate of about 625,000 Liters/second (or 1.45x10^10 gallons/day).
So, one of these devices would consume .000185% of the moisture that enters Death Valley every day.
https://scitechdaily.com/america-is-sinking-28-major-cities-are-slowly-going-under/
Given enough people and time, we have a track record of messing stuff up.
ground water is a completely different beast. This device harvests moisture from the air.
You are assuming that there will only be one device used by a careful and considerate individual.
I can think of many companies that would 100000% set up a moisture farming complex if it was financially feasible. Who gives a fuck about the environment? It’s basically free water from nothing, right?
If you plan on drinking the water, or cooking with the water, it's going right back into the air after you pee or sweat and the water evaporates. Literally no damage done.
You cannot make the water actually disappear unless you use it in some kind of chemical reaction, and even then it may end up returning to water eventually.
I would think that ripping 1000L of water out of an environment in a day is going to have more immediate impacts than you eventually pissing on a cactus is going to fix…
Sure, the water isn’t “destroyed”, but it is being removed from an ecosystem that has evolved to use every last bit of water it can find to survive. It may not be immediately obvious, but it sounds just as damaging as removing 1000L of water a day from a lake and thinking the ecosystem will be fine because you’re going to sweat next to the dry lakebed.
I would think that ripping 1000L of water out of an environment in a day is going to have more immediate impacts than you eventually pissing on a cactus is going to fix…
Well... It all depends on what you do with the water. Are you sequestering it in some way or are you releasing it? I mean, if the community drank 1000 liters of water, then their next piss is 100% going to fix it. Even watering crops is just releasing the water.
just as damaging as removing 1000L of water a day from a lake and thinking the ecosystem will be fine because you’re going to sweat next to the dry lakebed.
Again, if you're going to sweat 1000 liters, then go for it, I fully endorse this plan. Use as much water as you want, it's fine unless you're shipping it out.
That water was in its way to somewhere, though. What is that other area gonna look like now that this device intercepts the water?
Sounds like that other area needs to pull up on those bootstraps and make a water machine for its needs then.
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They won't probably export the water to europe or something.
I mean it's not Nestle.
same could be said about every shower you take and every toilet you flush
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Eventually all that dry air will end up above the ocean and absorb more water to balance the system. I don't think it's really an issue, we weren't getting rain clouds from the Sahara anyway.
Dooooom
Someone is going to drink it then sweat it back into the air. I doubt its going to get bottled and shipped somewhere else.
It'll probably be used to grow cash crops which are then shipped somewhere else.
That's how most water gets exported.
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Bruh.
This is likely not the Generative AI, LLM-slop type of AI you're thinking of.
I hate generative AI. But other forms of AI and machine learning have been used for much longer and haven't facilitated the building of ecologically harmful datacenters.
For example, AlphaFold, which is an AI program that can predict how proteins fold and is an incredibly useful tool.
I expect that the use of AI here would be similar: something trained for a specific purpose, not just generic generative AI tech like ChatGPT
