Firefox has a profit incentive and its making low quality software...
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I wouldn't say low
Yeah low. If you compare load times side by side with chromium based browsers, you can't deny how painfully slow firefox is. Thats not to mention the ancient bugs that will never get fixed and the random predatory functionality they keep adding. Low is generous.
Ya let's use chrome instead
So many people let perfect be the enemy of good. Firefox is great. It's the pillar of non-Chromium of browsers. Servo and Ladybird are not there yet and will take many years to surpass Firefox if ever. A Firefox fork has a better shot than those 2
GIMP is great software. Is it just Photoshop and Affinity better than it. Not seeing as much hate on Inkscape when it's just Adobe and Affinity as better.
OpenOffice is outdated but was good for like ~2010
A bunch of y'all would have been ragging on Blender 10 years ago. Ragging on Krita. In 2012 acting like gaming in Linux was doomed. In 2015 acting like Kdenlive would never reduce crashes and improve functionality. Acted like Darktable would never be competitive with Lightroom. Godot would be no good for anything more than 2d sidescrollers and never compete with Unity 5. A bunch of do nothing fence sitters. Firefox and GIMP developers contribute more to the good of humanity than anyone crying about them in this thread
So many people suck up for the better of two bad options. You can use it and still give it deserved criticism, you won't hurt it's (or the wealthy Firefox exec team's) feelings.
The Problem with open source is, it relies on self exploitation. Most OS Dev don't get paid, so they've got to work another jib full time. This leads to a lot of burned out devs from their project and that is a real problem.
Before a project becomes self sufficient on donationa, it needs to become really big. Most projects simply never reach that scale.
Firefox? Lmao
yeah Firefox doesn't belong in this meme
shoutout to ffmpeg!
GIMP is not high quality. Audacity was sold out. Firefox has also sold out. Apache OpenOffice was what fucked over and led to LibreOffice coming ahead
Gimp is not exactly on par with programs in other categories, but that doesn't mean it's not high quality. It's good code that is stable, multiplatform, and the project has picked up the pace in recent months. I feel it's unfair to call the project "not high quality"
Gimp is love, gimp is life :) I have lost track of the years I have relied on that tool always being there when I need a quick edit or to modify some layers.
VLC remains the GOAT
firefox is debataable
Name a better open source browser built from the ground up that isn't backed by big tech, I'll wait.
Firefox is literally backed by big tech though?
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Ok, while most of these donβt have companies behind them with huge revenues, most work on these projects is done by paid developers, with money coming from sponsorships, grants, donations and support deals. (Or in the case of Linux - device drivers are a prerequisite for anyone buying your product).
Developers getting paid to work on open source is a good thing. These projects may have begun their life as small hobby projects - they arenβt anymore. (And thatβs probably good)
People have ALWAYS wanted to make better tools. Did we need to improve our arrowheads and spears every generation? No, we could have kept the same designs as long as they got the job done.
But humans are pretty unique. We will spend significantly more time testing and improving our tools for only a minor improvement. Because we are not doing it for only ourselves. We are doing it for the knowledge of future generations.
Closed source software and profit driven economic models go AGAINST human nature. It is human to plant trees for which you will never live to enjoy the shade of.
There is no major company that allows tools to be written that fill this human connection in building something solely for the purpose of building a good tool to make our lives easier and better.
It should be common sense, but while it's not, this kind of comment is refreshing like a breeze on the nape
Blender is so incredibly good. Big fan here. I'm just a hobbyist tho
I'm not sure Firefox belongs on this list. Google finances Mozilla's operation to the tune of $420M a year. It's not for-profit, but it's also not the same as the others.
Google wants to finance anything they can get their damn search engine into, that's not entirely the fault of Firefox. I still use a firefox-based browser, but only for now.
There is ladybird on the horizon, a browser being built from scratch, not based on either Gecko or Webkit.
Servo is way way way ahead and isn't being built by fascist white supremacist and sympathizers.
It's an easy paycheck for allowing Google as the default search setting. If Microsoft paid as much we would be seeing the same arguments about Bing.
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What people don't always remember about FOSS is they are just making it for themselves they are users as well as devs. The great thing about FOSS is if someone else happens to use it that's great and maybe they will contribute to something they use.
Yeah and they get other devs contributing to their project. Nobody's making Firefox or Blender as a solo project, but band together with some other nerds and this is what you get.
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Audacity sold out and is now spyware; use Tenacity instead.
Wait, what?!? You got a source for that?
I'll be pissed if it's true... Audacity holds a special place in my heart.
Source - download page's main option wants you to download using the "Muse Hub". Even if you install with a normal installer, here's one of the welcome tips
Yuck. Thanks for the heads-up.
For real!? Damn
Not for real.
Not really, it's still fully FOSS, they were just terrible at communicating what they actually wanted to do and people got spooked.
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Non-profit means the corporation isn't set up to make a profit and the business operates off of donations instead of selling a product. So there is always a profit motive. I wish more people understood this. Everything from Greenpeace to MADD is still a corporation ran by people who want to make lots and lots of cash.
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Apache OpenOffice??
Surely you meant LibreOffice. OpenOffice has basically been dead for years, with no significant work going on.
Lmao I've been doing a digital forensics class online, and it's always got VMs with ancient versions of software on it, so I got to discover what Apache OpenOffice was. Love that they have to use FOSS to teach us shit since Windows needs a subscription.
Typo
I almost wrote dogital forensics. Is that using dogs to find data? Sniff out that hard drive and get datadumping boy!
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Obviously this isn't a Ferengi operation.
Firefox is not high quality. Every other browser is just worse.
Tbh I quite like it
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Where is FreeCad in this one? I've started using it after buying a 3d printer, and it's awesome what that piece of software lets me create.
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With enshitification nowadays, the fact that they're nonprofit is the reason why the software is good quality.
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