Yo other companies can you just pretend it is Apple who is doing it so that you will copy this and announce it next day?
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It's nice to get confirmation, though I really can't believe it had to be said. Sign of the times, I guess.
If they release one with a headphone jack I'm 100% sold.
Please make this the industry expected.
Will banking apps and NFC pay finally work?
Doesn't that depend on google play services? If so, "probably not, but then again it works currently if you install play services on a separate user profile (or on your main, defeating the purpose of grapheneOS to begin with but more power to you)."
Tell google/banks to stop requiring the spyware, they won't but at least it's better then telling the secure OS to install just a little spyware just so you don't need to carry a wallet.
I would still need to be able to use my banking app to check my balance. That's more than just needing "to carry a wallet." That's the difference of more than $450 in mistakes as that's what happened when i didn't get a live-update to my account prior to the advent of smartphone banking apps. Fuck 5/3. -a dumpster-fire of a banking organization if i've ever seen one.
graphene still sandboxes gplay, even if you use the two profiles for work and home
I think he was saying that installing it on your main user account would be the way that's pointless.
and i'm saying it's still sandboxed on the main account leaving a second profile still available for work
I guess I'm confused on how t being sandboxed would stop it from doing it's tracking thing
It gives you more control over when and what Google can do on the device. If you run Google software with network access you have to assume they can track you, but having it sandboxed minimizes what it can do while running and gives you more control over what it does (e.g. you can deny it network access entirely whenever you want).
it has MUCH less access to your phone on GrapheneOS than stock android and can even be limited to only contexts where its required.
plus Graphene still blocks a lot of the other attack vectors that corporations use to track you like Dynamic Code Loading and Memory Tagging. to say installing google play services to your main profile defeats the purpose of GrapheneOS is to ignore like 80% of what GrapheneOS does and how it installs google play services
It'll still try, it just wouldn't have root access. It would just depend on what you allow it access to.
I just got a pixel 10 the moment I heard that Google wants to lock down android and I didn't want to waste any time. I paid off my Samsung s23 and before even loading my Sim I installed grapheneOS.
I had a motorola G5 before my Samsung but it broke.
At least my Samsung is still intact. I can't wait to format it and load a prepaid if I need a travel phone.
Holy Hell!
This definitely will be on my shopping list. At the top. I hope they bring to all devices and not only higher end.
This news aligns quite well with the Levovo T series ThinkPad repairability.
Other major tech companies sail towards more and more closed environments.
Does this count for al Motorola phones?
You definitely shouldn't buy a Motorola now with the hope that Graphene will get added to it in the future. This could apply exclusively to pre-flashed devices, for all we know.
no. most or all of their current offerings are very locked down
When is it gonna come out?
Just take my money!
Oh, they will.
Good, good. Next, tell me there will be a 3.5mm headphone jack, swappable SD card, and user-replaceable battery and we'll be golden.
I ain't buying shit if it ain't got a rotary dial!
There will be a 3.5mm headphone jack, swappable SD card, and user-replaceable battery.
Help, I have turned to gold and cannot move or turn back.
You bastard!
their phones do tend to have that already...
e: at least the lower end ones I've had
So interesting to me that it's the lower end phones that have the features I want
It's mostly to achieve higher IP ratings, and people with expensive phones also tend to pay for things like cloud storage upgrades and expensive bluetooth earbuds.
Whelp, looks like I'm going to Motorola
Hopefully this initiative sticks, sounds like my next phone (eventually) might just be Motorola/Graphene.
Historically, the problem with Motorola hasn't been their os, it's been their hardware, it's just usually not very good when compared to the competition. And often the price is higher for what you're getting.
I grant that Motorola may neglect to go top of the line (e.g. there's no 'flagship grade' non-folding phone on offer right now), but price wise, at least in the US, it seems to be in line with other options and the cheaper options are generally motorola.
Is this US or elsewhere? What are the better value competition in the mid-lower range.
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