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[–] riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 1 hour ago

Yes they would.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 6 points 3 hours ago

My arguments online are for the benefit of others readers and also myself, rarely is my goal to change the person I'm replying to's mind. It is good to test ones opinions and logic.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 hours ago

I find when you stop arguing to change others opinions and start arguing because its fun you liberate yourself. I feel no need to make a reactionary, a shitlib, or a bootlicker change their views when pointing out the absurdity of their arguments can easily convince people silently watching.

[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The problem was integrating the Nazis into classified programs. None of them, not a single one, even Einstein, should have had security clearance. You literally invited the opposition to infiltrate your ranks.

Not to say that Einstein wasn't a boon to the US, but an alarming amount of 'former' Nazis got a free psss, and shit, look at ~~America~~ Third Reich today!?

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

Einstein was a socialist and very against the third reich. Don't know where you got the idea that he was a nazi

[–] verdare@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Einstein and many other Jewish scientists famously fled Germany in droves to escape the Nazis. Seems a little gross to suggest that refugees will bring whatever tyrannies they’re fleeing from along with them…

[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

Oh I agree I was just trying to provide a contrast angle, to emphasize the point. Of course there were good, but clearly too many leaked through, and while the blanket answer is 'corrupt power strives for power,' I believe in a more nuanced kind of way.

Obviously having Einstein was a boon, but what if he'd been the kinda shit we deal with today? White-Christian-nationalist Einstein sounds like a worst-case scenario.

We got off lucky and that's putting it nicely.

[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Don't know where you got the idea that he was a nazi

He was just an example of how the US was scooping up German scientists like Einstein.

Learn your shit before you call others out.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm confused. Is this meant to be a meta joke by arguing about something and trying to change someone's mind?

[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think that Einstein was a Nazi, from the information I have seen. I think that seeing every German as "the opposition" is itself a pretty fascist position to take.

The true opposition is not people of different nationalities, it is people of a different class. That is, the "owners" who exploit the working class by claiming ownership of the fruits of their labor.

[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

Sorry, maybe I misspoke/misinterpreted my point. As I was taught in grade 9-10, about 20y ago, (being American myself), post WW2 US was snatching up nazi scientists like pedophiles on a playground, instead of having proper screening.

As I understand it, the screening was minimal and vulnerable, and by that measure, it's no surprise the US became the modern Nazi-Germany.