this post was submitted on 11 Mar 2026
335 points (94.7% liked)

Technology

82810 readers
4562 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

The Apple MacBook Neo's $599 starting price is a "shock" to the Windows PC industry, according to an Asus executive.

Hsu said he believes all the PC players—including Microsoft, Intel, and AMD—take the MacBook Neo threat seriously. "In fact, in the entire PC ecosystem, there have been a lot of discussions about how to compete with this product," he added, given that rumors about the MacBook Neo have been making the rounds for at least a year.

Despite the competitive threat, Hsu argued that the MacBook Neo could have limited appeal. He pointed to the laptop's 8GB of "unified memory," or what amounts to its RAM, and how customers can't upgrade it.

(page 4) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

For Windows if 8 gb of RAM is not enough that’s an own-goal. Because it is. Or it should be. Windows 11 is not so dramatically better than Windows Vista SP3 to require a 10x better computer to use comfortably. Actually, in many ways Windows 11 is a massive downgrade from what came before it.

I’m glad the MacBook neo is only 8gb. That means they have to support it as a usable low-end target. That means we aren’t jumping the gun on saying “actually you need 12 gigs of RAM” as if that should be normal for a usable computer.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

XP used to just have ram sitting there empty waiting for something. Then over vista and 8 and 10 they started more and more preloading because hey if the ram is empty it’s wasted. Like database servers, they always suck down all the RAM possible. Problem is windows doesn’t release it when the cache or whatever isn’t useful and something else wants it.

It’s been a while but I think macOS is considerably better at both parts of that equation.

There’s no reason that computers need to be so powerful other than MBAs saying “optimization is too expensive, just push the feature.”

[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

MacOS is significantly better than windows when using their first party apps, but many third party apps are ram hogs and things get forced to swap more often.

Swap isn't terrible though, a lot of current gen mac hardware has very fast SSDs and very low latency controllers so it's pretty transparent in normal use.

I think if you are on a website like this, this computer isn’t for you, but it is for a lot of people who use nothing but a web browser with one tab open 90% of the time.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] phar@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is attractive to me simply because finding a quality 13" laptop is very difficult. 15.6" is huge.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It really is not appealing a mac air with 16gb RAM was $999 AUD and the NEO is $899 AUD. It's a step backwards..

[–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

If you know what RAM is, this product isn't for you. It's for your kid or grandma

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which Air is that? I just looked at the current m5 Air, entry level everything is $1099 USD, i am guessing the one you saw was an older model.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (12 children)

The failure rates of these will be the determining factor. The components inside are cheap, all soldered on, and will not be repairable at all (waiting on the iFixIt score).

Its pretty much just their phone platform with a big screen and keyboard, so maybe it'll be okay. It's not built like a phone though, so I'm expecting some interesting testing outcomes. It's either going to be cheap enough that they have a new planned obsolescence hit on their hands, or people are going to be pissed at it sucking so hard.

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I’m also waiting for the full iFixit review, but teardowns from other channels are now being shared and so far it looks like it’s very solidly built and repair-friendly. None of the typical ‘cover everything in excessive glue and tape’ anti-repair shenanigans we’ve come to expect from Apple.

Repair friendly means CHEAP components repair, which Apple just does not do.

As an example, in a machine like this if your WiFi module tanks...that's a full logic board replacement. Might as well buy a new one.

According to this, Apple is basically making an insurance vertical as part of their business, and they are pricing repairs to be exactly 1/3 the retail cost of the machine for pretty much everything except screens.

This is pretty scam my when you consider their past of quoting customers for repairs that are above and beyond the scope of the actual hardware failures, and what maximizes profits for their AppleCare and RMA process. There are dozens of breakdowns in this, so I won't write a novel, but it's very obvious they've baked in the costs to make it more cost-effective to just keep buying new units as a replacement in the face of simple hardware failures.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (11 replies)
[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

The industry problem is mainly that RAM makers do not want to piss off Apple, who has already had long term contracts set prior to rampocalypse. But 8gb linux native is a better product for systems that need to be offered at 8gb for affordability.

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I feel the specs are fine for the use case that the device is aimed at (media consumption, some office usage).. you know, the things that a huge chunk of the population use a device for.. if that doesn’t suit, there are more powerful options.

I don’t think it is productive arguing that an ultra cheap/low end device isn’t powerful enough, or specced high enough for activities/use cases that it wasn’t designed for.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›