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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 7 points 1 week ago

When I was a kid they just forced you through eventually because no about of education could offset the damage done be breathing in leaded gasoline exhaust.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 7 points 1 week ago

Because no child left behind worked out so well... Here we are having the same idiotic argument 25 years later.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The first problem is that we're conflating Executive function with Knowledge.

If you get a 50 because you didn't understand the material, that's different from not doing or turning in the work.

I'm dealing with this now. The kid turns in his work, gets A's and B's, takes his test, and gets A's. His actual work in school is all A's, B's and 0's

He's learning, he knows the material. He can't hold focus, loses the paper, gets embarrassed if it gets a wrinkle, doesn't turn it in, and won't keep an organized folder.

He gets behind enough that he starts staying up late to finish the work and ends up falling asleep in class. We mediate with the teachers, stand over him to get him to do the work. Try to get him to keep it up once he's out of our sight. We get back on even keel again 2 weeks later, and some teacher who's behind on their grading does batch grading a week before the end of the semester, and we have 10 more assignments that weren't listed in the portal the day before.

Some of his teachers will take a late paper and give him a 50 on it. That's a huge advantage because coming from a 0 is hard.

And in before someone bitches at me that you can't not turn in work in real live, yeah, I know what's why we go to school and that's why we're working on it. Doctors, counselors, teachers, and parents.

Very true. I think there definitely needs to be a framework for accepting late work in these cases, which is much better than calling it 50% out of thin air.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And what if they try and get <50%? This means the system is promoting those who invested nothing and don’t even try.

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Yeah. Massive societal and environmental issues behind that reductionist meme. Poverty, food quality, parent(s), neurodivergence, and even the simple fact that some people are shitty students but might excel at a job despite poor grades.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Admins like that are treasonous to the lives they're supposed to be preparing for autonomous-living.

& need be eradicated from education.

No matter what their rank.

School-board types who sabotage learner-opportunity/potential, admins, principals, teachers, processes, policies, proceedures, I don't care what the saboteur is: rip it out & replace it with what is loyal to the learners' lives & potential & opportunity.

If that means segregating the intentionally-ignorant & the bullies from the majority of learners, then do it.

( still bitter over how I wasn't allowed calculus when I was in grade-8 & 9, because the institutional-process dictated I wait, then brain-injury robbed my ability to finish learning algebra, a couple years later.

I COULD HAVE HAD IT IN MY LIFE, but for their "process" regime.

fuckers. )

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[–] Juice@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago

Fixing Education

Doubt

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tbf it's true. Grades should not be a tool to hold anyone down, in fact there's very little value in grading - it's just a patch for incompetent education.

[–] saturn_888@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Grades are for administration, not students. Students would receive far better education if schooling was focused on them learning and thinking and developing important skills. But after the industrial revolution, schools were designed solely as thought terminating obedience teaching places

[–] a1tsca13@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

A good argument for the 4-point grading scale.

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[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It generally gotten worse but if I notice my opposite in an argument is most likely a US-American I don't even bother replying to them anymore. The absolute majority of them lack any sense of reading comprehension, the ability to read between the lines or piece context together that it's just a waste of time.

[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

That is unironically how donald passed.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I was placed in the remedial track and when I tried to get out, they tried everything to keep me in them. From telling me to wait a week to reconsider, only to miss the change class deadline, to gas lighting me into fearing failure, to telling me that the classes were full. I recently found out that they lied to me about my honor's placement test to keep me in the remedial classes. I hated my experience with that school so much.

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