Fuck AI

There's definitely a correlation between the understanding/misunderstanding of what it does and the understanding/misunderstanding of what it's capable of.

If you understand even the basics of how an LLM works you understand that it's not capable of much more than mediocre at a consistent level because even with the best possible training data and a lack of bad training data it's ability to"hallucinate" is based on how incomplete the data set it's trained on is.

When it "hallucinates" it does so because it doesn't have a direct answer it can generate for whatever query is given. This is because humans can't generate a complete data set of everything that is without flaw.

So they are as average as we are if we do not attempt to better ourselves. The difference is that they can't better themselves because they do not learn. And even further than that, we can try to better the training data, but they still lack the ability to understand anything including context which makes it a useless task. The man power of humans working together might be able to get pretty close to a training set that would raise an AI LLM above the average human, but the LLM can't maintain that trajectory by itself and literally nothing else would get done.

I know some intelligent and artistic people who use AI, and some lazy people at well. I know folks who have niche intelligence and general intelligence who use it and don't. It's almost like literally everything else, where subsets of the population will either use it or not use it, and the "it" itself is not some determining factor in deciding the value of a person.

This thread is just another Lemmy superiority circle jerk, but hey, here we are. So jerk away guys.

I also don't use it, don't like it, but I also don't judge people based on whether or not they use it, because I do plenty worth judging myself.

I had someone tell me it allowed them to "make the best app they've ever made". It was a bootstrap CRUD task app.

my older bro who was in tech just starting using the slop machine like last year, he think its great, and thinks the answer to anyone asking him a question is chatgpt, think for yourself, and also AI generated picture from an actual PHOTO too.

I think as far as software development goes, a large amount of people are not creating innovative work. For most corporate jobs AI or human slop is good enough. The ramifications of not writing it themselves and learning as they go is problematic and eventually we will not have people with enough experience to be in senior roles, where the experience and intuition is a must. That being said, it's very understandable to use a tool that lets you cruise through a job that pays 80k annual salary with benefits.

I've never met a real human person that loves AI. I've used it in very specific circumstances. I've met other people who've used it. But every one of those people share some variation of my opinion - It's useful for very few things and trash for the 99% of other things. I don't know who these lovers of AI are but I bet it's the same handful of idiots who all run in one or two social circles reinforcing each other's opinions on everything. If a person's ideas can't be challenged or they surround themselves with people exactly like themselves their minds are doomed to atrophy. Humans are coded to save energy. Talent and skill takes long grueling effort. AI allows the lazy to phone it in which allows the midiocre to cosplay as the talented. But AI is a tool. For people with reading/writing difficulties it can bridge gaps that previously required much more effort and many more resources. That independence has value, but AI is not a replacement for the novelist. Anyone who says that the sun shines out of AI's ass or the sun never sets on AI or whatever BS they're spouting is either a snake oil salesman or their mark. Neither should be given much oxygen.

It's not the same if scientists use AI as tool to create new materials, vaccines, genetics and in other investigations, solving problems which in traditional manner with millons of data need a lot of years, or an dumb user got even dumber, substituting the own creativity and intelligence with an AI app. AI can be an usefull tool for certain tasks, no an substitute for human capabilities. The problem with AI is this, not the AI as such, but it's abuse, to convert it to an hype, to obtain user data by big corps, to manipulate and control decisions. The correct use of AI need human intelligence.

The only person around me (that I know) that uses AI is me and the company mechanic. I only ever use it as an easier 'image search' to find the source of manga/anime or similar things. He only uses it to figure out what brand/model machine he needs to work on so he uses it to find the manual pdfs.

I feel like we're using it the 'right way,' but I feel like we're not actually using the AI part so...

Wow, yes. I think it goes both ways though, relying on the AI for the human part of your work (design, writing) makes you more stupid. But yes my direct boss is an Elon fanboy, ChatGPT devotee and his thinking is slow. He's not exactly stupid, there is stuff he's good at, but doesn't quickly make connections, and it sure seems like it's related to the ChatGPT.

I concur.

The same people who love AI are those that also loved the Magic 8-ball.