An Indian man whose wife is an accepted refugee in Canada is facing deportation with the couple's five-year-old son in what lawyers say is a troubling new practice of separating the families of people with protected status.

Ravi Chauhan and his young son are set to be deported Monday, leaving his wife, who is the child's mother, behind in Canada without the possibility of seeing her family for what could be years while they await permanent residency.

Lawyers and advocates say Chauhan's case reflects a broader change in which border officials are increasingly deporting the spouses and children of protected persons who were previously allowed to remain while applications were processed.

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[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Can we please stop adopting American refugee tactics in Canada!!!!

Jfc already!

[+] maplesaga@lemmy.world -6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Once we build the homes to put these people we can start being compassionate, unless you're volunteering your own home?

Or is your house already at capacity with homeless people?

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why accept one refugee claim and turn away the rest of the family then? Does it make sense to seperate a child from his mother? They should have just rejected the whole family according to your logic.

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

Ya fair enough, I just assumed there was some reasonable circumstances explaining it.

[–] trashcroissant@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How about we fill up the empty houses first? You know, the ones built to fill the pockets of investors and now just sitting there because no one can afford them... Or sitting empty because rich people own multiple homes just for kicks. Can we limit the amount of houses they get to have?

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Ya agreed, do that First.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

I live in a rooming house. Otherwise I would be having people stay with me (which I've done before when I was renting a house).

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 days ago

Permanent residency delays in Quebec are about 10 years, according to Immigration, Refugee and Citizenship Canada's (IRCC) processing times website.

They kinda buried one of the major issues here. If they were waiting six months that would be one thing, but 10 years? That's insane.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is pointless cruelty.

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Its also cruel to bring people into a vast housing shortage.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (3 children)

We've already debates this you and I. By the way, Canada's population just fell for the first time in history. Did that fix the crisis?

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Yes rent is coming down where I live

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Seems to be helping, yes. I just think it needs to be around 4-5x income as it was historically.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I haven't had this debate with you.

Do you think it's ok to import foreign workers en masse when we can't support them?

We are basically complicit in human trafficking. And as a bonus this makes it almost impossible for youth to find work.

Facebook sux but go lurk the indians in canada groups. Let me know how much fun you think they are having.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

EDIT: I thought I was responding to maplesaga. So in the spoilers below is what I wrote in the first version of this comment. I'm leaving it here because it links to sources that debunk the myth that immigrants are to blame for the housing crisis.

spoiler

We debated the root causes of housing unaffordability about a month ago: https://lemmy.ca/comment/21841706 You called my arguments ...gaslighting.

Now apparently immigrants are also to blame for unemployment. What else are you going to pile on us?

And save me the crocodile tears about "trafficking". Obviously I'm not supporting the kind of precarious status the temporary foreign worker program stamps on people's lives. Immigrants should have full status with full rights to organize, unionize with all other workers. But you found that ...worrying in that same discussion.

Stop fucking blaming immigrants. The housing crisis, the affordability crisis, youth unemployment, all those are caused by a rigged economic system that fucks over indigenous, settler and immigrant workers for the benefit of a hundred rich families. Income inequality is at an old time record in this country and nativism is a very convenient distraction that serves them just perfect.

So, after the edit, here is what I'm going to say to you, rabber:

Save me the crocodile tears about "trafficking". Obviously I'm not supporting the kind of precarious status the temporary foreign worker program stamps on people's lives. Immigrants should have full status with full rights to organize, unionize with all other workers.

Stop fucking blaming immigrants. The housing crisis, the affordability crisis, youth unemployment, all those are caused by a rigged economic system that fucks over indigenous, settler and immigrant workers for the benefit of a hundred rich families. Income inequality is at an old time record in this country and nativism is a very convenient distraction that serves them just perfect.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The details are vague in this article but what it sounds like is the Father and Son arrived via a visitor visa and the wife is naturally a refugee due to threats she/her family were receiving in India. So it's very safe to assume that the father and son have well overstayed their visitor visa status (add to the fact he was working here at a Tim Hortons which is a no-no on a visitor visa) and so naturally deportation. a Visitor Visa allows up to 6months and since they stated the child was 2 or 3 when they arrived they've been here for at least 2 years. Also doesn't say if the husband got a work permit (which I doubt).

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

The article alao clearly states that it has NOT been the practice to separate families for decades.

Chauhan's lawyer, Stewart Istvanffy, said it is the first time in three decades of practice that he has seen a refugee's immediate family face removal.

[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I feel like there's information missing. What was the man charged with? It seems like he's in jail since the wife is trying to raise bail.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He doesn't have to be charged with anything for CBSA to refuse his application.

[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They were raising bail for him. Why was he in jail?

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

CBSA doesn't have to make any reason public. They have become one of the most secretive services in Canada.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

but he was jailed for something...

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He was detained by the CBSA during what he thought was a routine check-in.

He was then informed that his asylum claim was rejected.

His wife was required to post a $4000 immigration bond so that he did not remain in detention until deportation.

He has no criminal record. CBC is using the term "bail" loosely here.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

ah ok, that clears things up

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

CBSA has their own 'jails' so charges aren't required. A simple denial of immigration is all that's needed to hold someone.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

ah ok, that clears things up

[–] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

Capitalism is shit. Can I get off this stupid ride now please.