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What is a piece of media with a leftist message but right-wingers love it? (piefed.blahaj.zone)

submitted 16 hours ago by atheqtpie@piefed.blahaj.zone to c/AskUSA@discuss.online

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I myself am from the USA but I really can't think of anything. I do know of some right-wingers from my old high school who liked leftist stuff but I can't think of what they are off the top of my head. Maybe Star Trek, does that count?

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

star trek doesnt count, mostly because they never watched it until STD came out, they dint like the "woman, gays" being so on the lead role, thats about the same time when the propaganda became super apparent in naming leftist messages as woke around the time of trumps attempt at a 2nd term. just like with DOCTOR who. around 2020 they start rearing thier stinking heads on comment sections on youtube videos. they only have a problem when a 'white male, christian is the lead role in a movie/show".

right wing only consumes things that are within thier worldview, thats why its almost alwayss fox news, and right wing pundits.

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, Star Trek. Hands-down one of the craziest contradictions I can come up with.

My entire generation grew up with Star Trek TNG, DS9, Voyager...I don't think they payed any attention to the actual plot.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago

they dont, only the fact that a women was in charge in STD, is what set them off.

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

The Culture series is a post scarcity society run by AI minds, they meddle in the affairs of other alien cultures and that asshat Elon Musk seem to like the stories but probably only like that there was AI ships that gave themselves odd names. He gives his spaceships names in a similar style.

I rather doubt he wants a society like Culture because without scarcity he would be equal to others and he wouldn't want that.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

IIRC, the original Star Trek was the first TV show to have a kiss between an interracial couple, and was absolutely hated by right-wingers because of it. That, and plenty of other socialist themes like black people having equal status and respect as white people.

Other good ones have been posted, but I'd add the Starship Troopers movie to the list and by extension the game Helldivers 2 which parodies the same fascist regime disguised by democratic jingoism theme as the movie. I believe the original Starship Troopers book was 100% serious with its support for a fascist regime, however.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Im still iffy about the kiss. I respect the cultural significance, and the fact that the actors stood their ground on it.

But, in the story itself, its forced on Kirk and Uhura, and its just a bit of a weird shade on the whole thing that I guess I have to let slide?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

it wasnt a problem til STDISCOVERY came out, when women were in lead roles and more prominent gay roles. thats when it all sorta started with conservatives. also commenting on older st shows that predated STD is odd.

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

It's like Voyager never existed.

[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago

Rage against the machine.

[–] in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 15 points 11 hours ago

The Matrix

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

Reality

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 24 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Lord of the Rings, it's not full leftist but it's very much anti-war , anti-fascism, and supports environmentalism. Right-wingers love naming their newest Torment Nexus Fascist Tool after Lord of the Rings stuff.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

peter thiel co-opted lotr and perverted the franchise in his "anti-christ" persona.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Looking at you Palantir and Anduril

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

lembas, mithril too.

[–] Brummbaer@pawb.social 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if the anti-fascism is not by accident. Tolkien was pro Franco.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago

I've seen arguments about that both ways. I'm not fully convinced. My take is his opinion on Franco specifically was colored by family ties and he wished the end was not used to justify the means as much but he forgave some of the rebellion and choices agreed for that. Whatever his stance, Lord of the Rings itself reads fully to me anti-fascist

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 45 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Born in the USA by Bruce Springsteen

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Hopefully Streets of Minneapolis will get them to quit with the Springsteen.

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 1 points 1 hour ago

I mean, they complained with 41 Shots, too, but it hasn't seemed to slow them down.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 27 points 15 hours ago

"Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival

[–] redknight942@sh.itjust.works 41 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

The Bible

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Depends what chapter you're reading. Multi genocide, pro slavery, women should be silent property, homosexuals are sinning, impregnating a minor without her consent, eternal torture chamber owner for not kissing his ass isn't leftist. Intergenerational forever curse for eating a fruit before having the knowledge not to sounds like a control freak abusive nutter to me.

[–] tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

2 “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything.

3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him.

If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free.

5 “But if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,’

6 then his master must take him before the judges. He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life.

7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do.

8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her.

9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter.

10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.

11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.

This is Exodus 21:2-11. It supports slavery; restrained, non-racial slavery, but slavery nonetheless.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 hours ago

The bible does not construct a consistent moral framework; it has vastly different - even contradictory - moral messaging because it is multiple texts written and constantly revised by multiple people who lived hundreds or even thousands of years apart, in different parts of the world, and for many different reasons. By picking and choosing which parts of the bible to emphasize you can use it to support a wide range of moral arguments. This is both a feature and a bug for charlatans throughout history who use it as a means of control.

[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Leviticus 25 is not so restrained.

"As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations around you that you may acquire male and female slaves. You may also acquire them from among the aliens residing with you and from their families who are with you who have been born in your land; they may be your property. You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, for them to inherit as property. These you may treat as slaves, but as for your fellow Israelites, no one shall rule over the other with harshness."

Fellow hebrews are servants for a free years and shouldn't be treated harshly. Foreigners are property for life and harshness is expected.

[–] atheqtpie@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 16 hours ago

That's very true! My girlfriend's other queerplatonic partner is a Christian who respects LGBTQ and is pretty left-wing on a lot of talking points, and they actually don't believe in discrimination like the right does.

[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 30 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

They always getting mad when someone explains rage against the machine to them

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 11 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I used to love RATM until they got all woke and political....

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 33 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Star Trek, the Matrix, Dune... lots of sci-fi, really

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

DOCTOR WHO, especially around the 13th and 15th doctor, arguable 15th doctor was weak actor compared the other ones, and also bad writing.

[–] hesh@quokk.au 15 points 14 hours ago

Just about all scifi

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 24 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The boys.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf 10 points 9 hours ago

If anyone ever needs an example of how fucking dumb conservatives can be, this is a great one.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 15 points 15 hours ago

George Carlin is getting posted a lot lately, that one should be obvious.

Also they turned not reading 1984 into a meme

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 16 hours ago

Basically everything they like from before recommendation_watchnext.serve() molded their brains, they believe all the geek franchises they love turned "woke" in the last 10 years.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 11 points 15 hours ago

Bruce Springsteen and similar

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 5 points 16 hours ago

Elon Musk cameo in Big Bang Theory where he said that that’s important to give to poorer people

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Slipknot.