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Anon tries making friends on 4chan (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The overall point aside, people don't take Adderall because they want a kick, they take it because they need it to be functional. I'd say that you have to be either ignorant or an asshole to call someone a druggie for regularly taking Adderall, but you know, 4chan, ignorant, asshole, redundancy, yadda yadda.

Edit: Jumping to the conclusion that people take Adderall because they want to get high feeds the stigma that people with ADHD are just drug abusers, which is a core reason why people with ADHD have so much trouble accessing their medication. If someone wants to get high, there's little reason to go for Adderall rather than drugs actually designed to get you high.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What? People absolutely abuse Adderall to get high...

[–] force@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

People abuse literally any psychoactive substance to get high, the point is a majority of people who take Adderall or any other common ADHD medication aren't.

The people who go around acting like those who treat their disorder are druggies, and derived from that is the myth that ADHD is overdiagnosed rather than severely underdiagnosed (especially in adults, women, and minorities), are why it's so inaccessible to a lot of people who it can help immensely. It's been a massive problem for a while now, even media like South Park have been taking that kind of angle attacking ADHD diagnoses/meds for the past few decades.

Actually expanding on this, a large portion of people who illegally use such medications, e.g. for doing schoolwork or studying in university, have undiagnosed ADD and are unknowingly self-medicating. Something like Adderall doesn't really have affects very different from a bunch of caffeine on non-ADHD minds, it mostly just makes you more alert and less sleepy (on the contrary, a lot of people with ADHD can feel fatigued/sleepy when taking stimulants because now their mind doesn't have 50 thoughts at once going off at lightning speed 24/7). Who would have guessed ADHD medication helps people with ADHD?

I mean it's stupid that (in the US at least) we have a society that thinks "some people abuse this drug therefore we should make it extremely hard to get or make it illegal (as long as it's not alcohol or nicotine) and we should act like most people who use it are abusers and addicts" but it is what it is.

[–] candle_lighter@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Adderal has nearly the same effects of meth

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Having experience with both, it turns out you are correct but still an asshole. Meth is harder to dose correctly but it fixes the same problems with my brain that Adderall fixes.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No the fuck it does not. They are both stimulants, that's effectively where the similarities end. A prescribed dose of adderal will not even come remotely close to the effects of recreational meth use.

[–] LittleBorat2@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

20mg of Adderall and 20 mg worth of europaste will have similar effects.

The latter is taken recreationally.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

What about America paste?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What about a high recreational dose?

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

A high recreational dose would provide effects closer to a usual dose of meth. Not the same, but closer. The reason I dislike the comparison is because most people won't understand that and will simply think adderal and meth are effectively the same as they are normally used.

Use of adderal as prescribed is not even remotely close to as dangerous as recreational meth use. I'm trying to prevent people from thinking that's the case.

The similarities between the two drugs simply come from the fact they are both stimulants. The comparison can be made between any two stimulants. The reason adderal and meth are used is because of the stigma adderal has. The comparison perpetuates that stigma despite having very little actual relevance.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Whether or not the perspective given here is valid, it's inarguably really low-empathy

[–] occhionaut@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

yeah this dude is kinda exemplifying 4chan

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Remember:

"4chan is where actually intelligent people pretend to be stupid morons, and Reddit is where actually stupid morons pretend to be intelligent."

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only people that believe that crap are 4channers dumb enough to believe that being an amoral asshole makes you smart. The reddit thing is true though.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For a while I was living in a student dorm in a student area. I was taking a walk when I saw one of those:

A piece of white A4 paper glued to a road sign. The piece of paper says "Islam was right about women" in big black text

Not that particular piece of paper but one with the same text. Took me 2 minutes of googling to trace it back to /pol/.

I'm an atheist and ex Muslim, Islam ruined a large portion of my life... but I took that paper down anyway. Random person had the right to hang it on the street and I had the right to crumble and recycle it.

The statement itself wasn't the triggering part... The triggering part was 4chaners think they are smart or making some kind of "point" with a quipy and short sentence... hanging out behind a screen trying to affect the real world outside even though they often claim not to be social or get any sun at all. At least that sad 4channer got to take a walk to hang this up. It was confusing more than offensive, had to read it a few times to even get it lololol

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Eh, it's illegal to post such things in many areas, so best case, you're helping enforce the law, and worst case, you're cleaning up the neighborhood.