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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

shitpost until AI can replace you by doing an equivalent job is a dicey proposition.

[–] mech@feddit.org 1 points 33 minutes ago

The techlords told me when AI replaces my job I can just be on the beach with full pay.
And they're billionaires so they must be smart.

[–] Lioffproxy@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Communism is just as easy of an answer as fascism. Just a different direction.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

"Communism in one country as opposed to the glob" - that's the problem.

How u gonna handle competition from non communist countries?

[–] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 4 points 12 hours ago

competition

That's a weird way to spell bombs.

[–] quips@slrpnk.net 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What makes socialism less competitive?

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You have far fewer desperate people to feed into the meat grinder, you have to be right everywhere every time or the oppressors will magnify your failures both at home and abroad, your researchers aren't researching almost exclusively weapons of mass destruction.

Also you know the whole "holding any value for human life" bit.

[–] quips@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 hours ago

These are things the most competitive countries on earth do though?

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's literally a running joke where I work called the "Union Shit". You run to the bathroom to take a 15 - 20 minute shit between your breaks.

Whether or not you're actually shitting or just shitposting is between you and those walls lol

[–] mech@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In Germany, you're having a "Sitzung" which is the word for a conference meeting, but literally just means "sitting".
When you return to your desk, coworkers will ask if the "meeting" was productive.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

It roughly means "session", which also derives from sitting.

[–] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I never understood why we're stuck with just capitalism or communism, two economic systems developed before railroads were a thing and written down at night by candle light or a lantern burning whale fat. I think we should come up with something better. To quote President Not Sure, "The water doesn't have to come from the toilet, but that's the general idea."

[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Everyone who advocates for a "third way" always just ends up advocating for capitalism.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Railways were a thing when communism was developing during Marx's times and Lenin wrote extensively about railways. Their analysis is still very valid, and if anything, planning has become more feasible than 100 years ago thanks to computers. There are some modern proposals, but they are still very much based on socialism, since capitalism can only lead us to ruin.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

"It's socialism or barbarism!". It's because there hasn't been any other convincing arguments otherwise. If you give the capitalists an inch, they'll eventually take it all. You cannot allow capital to accumulate to the degree that it wields real political power.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The real choice is capitalism or democracy.

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[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

That's propaganda of the deed. Not all leftists are anarchists.

[–] Bombastic@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago

You criticize society, yet you live in it. Hypocrisy much? Chekmate liberal

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I did some 'back of the napkin' math a few days ago to see what it would take for the employees in my company to purchase enough shares for a controlling stake in the company. I figured that we'd never get 100% of the employees to buy in, but we also don't need 100% of the shares, so to keep it easy I calculated if 60% bought 60% of the shares... and it would cost each employee around $2.3 million.

That tells me that each employee provides $2.3 million worth of value to the company... and we're not getting paid anywhere near that. Not even close.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

each employee provides $2.3 million worth of value

Market cap is just the value at which shares are sold on the market, not necessarily the actual value of the company. It implies a lot speculation for investors on how much they expect to gain from the ownership. The company equity/net worth is a more accurate indicator. What you're calculating is the accumulated value in time, not yearly.

If you want the ratio of generated value to wages paid, it's hard to accurately calculate with just public data, but you can approximate it so: in a given year, take the operating income and divide it by the number of employees. Operating income accounts for overhead expenses like SG&A (Sales General & Admin), which includes things that you can argue are useless (like wages for execs, middle management, and sales), but they also include admin costs like office rents, etc. Then you also have to find the average/median wage of a worker at the company, so the total is:

yearly value created by a worker = (operating income / n. of workers) + median wage

You can also do a quick calculation using this tool: https://yourfairshare.info/

It's interesting to note how in all of these top companies, for every 1$ paid to workers, another ~1$ is transferred to capitalists through dividends and buybacks.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Why is this highly upvoted? This is just a poor understanding of economics.

The market cap just shows the aggregate value of shares that are being publicly traded. It has nothing to do with labor value. You can't derive labor value from the market cap because there's no correlation. If you want to find out how much each employee contributes, you would have to use something like company revenue.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago

Company value is just the result of shareholders expectations for the future company value. It doesn't directly reflect the employees worth

[–] GorGor@startrek.website 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

this is interesting to me. can you show your work? Id be interested in going through the thought experiment as well.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Here's a site that calculates basically how much you're being exploited in a company. It's mostly for American stock exchanges, but if you can find the financial reports of your company you can apply the same method (it's nicely described).

https://yourfairshare.info/

The top comment doesn't really work, because even if workers pooled the money together, shareholders or execs might refuse to sell their shares if they are expecting it to grow and pay them out more in the future. Buying up companies to turn into coops doesn't work (except for failing/bankrupt companies), because it takes capital to do that, which workers don't have by definition.

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do the bare minimum to avoid getting fired.


Actively sabotage your employer.

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[–] Blurntout@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This but I’m self employed 😭

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

commenting on shitposts at work until my value matches my pay 🫡

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