Congrats on LLM agents on the promotion. One day maybe they'll even make it to management.
Fuck AI
"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
Except now everyone is getting paid less
This is exactly what it is for.
It is to scare tech workers to accept lesser salary.
LLM is just great at fooling people to think it is greater at something than it actually is.
Junior Developer doesn't boil oceans to do their job
depends. do they work in corporate or consulting?
Not with that attitude.
that is not a morale building tweet
For those asking / pronouncing this has to be satire, perhaps. But not for long. AI is still not making a profit. So whatever it costs today at the growth-at-all-costs subsidized rate, think how much more expensive it will be when investors start insisting on profit after market consolidation*.
Because if you think there is a competitive barrier to entry for smartphones, operating systems, CPUs, and streaming services, you ain't seen NOTHING yet
They're spending $3 per $1 of revenue. The price per token will rise dramatically.
We also have that energy shortage problem right now.
Surely satire right?
It makes sense to me… I use a very heavy framework that ensures my agent doesn’t lose context about the systems I develop. But that means every change goes through a big long pipeline and if all you want to do is change a few lines of code then maybe a junior dev is the right fit for that specific task?
Agentic coding would still have the context issues of changing code whether it’s AI or a human: somebody changed something, how do you record that for the next person. You either log it in memory or point it to the git PR, either way it needs to surface the changes.
So yeah, if AI is too expensive to code small problems for a given company than it’s too expensive for them period.
Try this I use it for all my projects. It’s a self documenting system that ensures context lives inside the module and has an mcp server that provides tooling for agents to read the intent tree.
I’ve been developing this server for a couple weeks now, but the actual system has lived and evolved within my PKB for a couple months since I started using Claude.
Honestly, I doubt it's satire.
Remember that there are a ton of junior developers out of work thanks to AI bullshit, which means a lot of desperate people willing to take low salaries. Especially if they replaced a full time employee with a contractor or someone working remotely from, eg, India or the Philippines.
The limitation of 'simple code' makes me think it has to be a joke, since it's the opposite of usual expectations.
If it's too expensive for simple code, it's too expensive for all code.
To the extent it gets expensive, it's more likely with higher end code.
This has to be a joke
It is a joke. But also entirely plausible.
Well, it's plausible but not 'just' for simple code.
Generally if the operator is dead set on AI sorting it out, and the AI gets into a loop of failure it burns through tokens and turns what should have been a cheap modification to a codebase into a multi-thousand dollar failure in a fairly short time. The more extraneous code there is for it to potentially incidentally mess with, the more likely it breaks test cases and goes back to perturb the codebase again hoping to fix it, but just breaking a different set of test cases.
Not really. Local models are pretty decent for simple tasks. The hardware to run them costs less than a month's salary.
"it's entirely plausible if I just ignore the economic reality, cost of compute, and capabilities of it all"!