Fuck AI

Many - myself included - will upvote messed up or unpleasant or concerning stuff because we feel it should be discussed, and discussion tends to correlate with visibility.

Upvote != agree in a ton of cases. Reddit worked (works? Haven’t been on in a few years actually) the same way.

Selection bias is relevant here. Some people care about X, some about Y. The intersection might be hypocrites, but your argument seems to imply they are the same group.

Different people, but yeah lemmy is getting kinda authoritarian lately. I've been tagging probable trolls and neonazis for a long time, but maybe I'll tag general political stances just to look at who is who.

Yeah, I agree. I don't want corporations giving my info to my government for any reason. Imagine the huge waste of resources and violations for false positives. And if they did hit a positive correctly, are they going to apprehend them for thought crimes?

Agree. Sam Altman is the face of evil, just not for keeping user data secure (in this particular instance in this particular way, they are 1000% selling your data in many other ways)

I got some news for you: the internet hasn't been private in a VERY long time.

Absolutely not.

Leaders rejected the safety team’s urgings and declined to report the user to law enforcement.

OpenAI will “find ways to prevent tragedies like this in the future” and to continue “working with all levels of government to help ensure something like this never happens again,” Altman said.

They already have a fucking way to prevent this and they opted not to, for PR reasons. They are complicit, they provided a service that aided planning and decided to continue service and allowed further planning.

If you post a message to a website, that message is not private from the website regardless of the method they use to receive it. They have the moral responsibility to respond to threats to life regardless of the legal responsibility they are arguing they don't have.

If I put a cork board up in front of my house and someone pins threats to it, when I notice it it's now my responsibility to act on that.

They train their ai on your data.

That is not really a case of privacy.

I am all for privacy but then you can let a company collect all that data to begin with (especially one that states clearly that they will leak your information and has a history of respecting privacy and copyright) and then cry over privacy.

That company wanted to have the data. Now even if you don't want to share the data with the government, they carry the responsibility that they could have done something.

A gun manufacturer carry the weight of the responsibility of what is done with those weapons. That is just how it is. Even if they are required and even if you don't want to prevent the existence of these weapons, the manufacturer carries the responsibility.

If you want a private internet, use a private internet. Stop supporting big data while crying about surveillance. Big data is always 1 law away from surveillance state.

Which is really interesting.

If you order large quantities of chemicals commonly used for making explosives, there's rules in place requiring the resellers to report you AFAIK. Seems the idea that Ai can be used as weapon or to radicalize people isn't something they considered yet when they wrote that legislation.