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[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is what happens when you elect morons to legislate technology they dont understand.

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Don't give them that grace. They might not understand it, but the tech-bro lobbiest sure as shit explained it to them in simple terms no doubt.

[–] manchicken@infosec.pub 14 points 2 days ago

Maybe we should just start blocking Utah like folks block North Korea. Utahans clearly want only Facebook and MySpace, and it’s rude of us to second-guess.

[–] Ophrys@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago

Land of the free etc

[–] spagbolioli@feddit.uk 10 points 2 days ago

I remember the days before corporations started to see the internet as a sales and advertising platform and governments allowed it to grow organically. It was honestly great. I miss those days

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

if they are so concerned about children, how about doing something about the mormon church and the fucking horrible crimes that are committed against women and children in it?

[–] jasoman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Nah they support that.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 4 points 2 days ago

Or the king tjey elected

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago (2 children)

More ways to control our lives and track our movements.

"Party of small government".

Personally, I would stop using any site that did this. We all know nothing matters in this country but money. Companies stop making as much, they'll get legislation changed.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We need debit cards that aren’t tethered to banking institutions which are bound to enforce this shit on their apps/websites.

Also, isn’t legislating against VPN usage just a new way to legislate over the rights of people who don’t live in your state? Because, how is a company going to prove whether you’re in California or Utah using a California based VPN? They won’t care… They’ll just enforce that everyone bides by Utah law, regardless of your origin.

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[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago (4 children)

But spoofing a phone number and harassing me all day isn't worth solutioning. This Gov. is not representing us.

[–] LuminousLuddite@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Biden admin was about to regulate data brokers but then Trump happened.

[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 13 points 2 days ago

They're always "about to" but never seem to do it.

If one "side" fixed anything they would not only lose the backing of their corporate sponsors, they wouldn't be able to point to the problem anymore and say they'll fix it to round up some votes before promptly going back to ignoring or supporting what they campaigned on stopping.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would bet my shoes Facebook or someone lobbied for this.

It’s easy to blame Mormons, but I think that bloc was more of a mark.

[–] spagbolioli@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago

Utah is the homeland of American embarrassment

[–] 52fighters@sopuli.xyz 76 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If I were a lawyer arguing against the law in court, my primary argument would be that this violates the interstate commerce section of the US Constitution.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 days ago

looks at the scotus playbook

yeah that falls in between 'nuhh uh' and 'don't care'.

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[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It seems like it's just a matter of time until the US has it's own red firewall.

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[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I find it so interesting that they will dance all the way around VPN's, yet do nothing to make them actually illegal.

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[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 391 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (30 children)

Web services and websites should block all Utah IP addresses and redirect to page explaining that because they cannot tell who's using a VPN, their only option is to block all of Utah.

Yes, I understand how dumb that is, but sometimes you have to fight stupid with stupider.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 161 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Porn sites have been doing that for years now.

And that's exactly what they want.

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[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 65 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

The stupidity of these lawmakers is beyond wild. How the fuck is this real?

I have a similar idea, let's prosecute the police when they fail to catch criminals and punish them instead. A killer got away? Death penalty for the police officer in charge. That will make the killers think twice!

Or even better, let's prosecute politicians when their laws backfire and do more damage than good.

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[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Have they thought about passing a law that checks to see if the people making the law have an IQ above 50?

This is the dumbest, most waste of time bullshit particularly when the rest of the country is imploding. Maybe they should focus on things that matter.

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[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

All adult businesses moving out of Utah. A lot of other businesses too.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Every website would be better served to come up with a way to block all IP ranges that come out of Utah ISPs. Better to just block the whole state than try to play this game.

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[–] quack@lemmy.zip 38 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (13 children)

So how do they plan on figuring out if any given user behind a VPN is in Utah?

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[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Russia's VPN crackdown disrupts banks, marketplaces and government services

And so if I'm in Utah as a traveller I can't check my local news by vpn? Ok

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 203 points 3 days ago (16 children)
[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 216 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I think this is one if those laws where they get to selectively choose who to prosecute.

..everyone is always a criminal so those in charge can do whateverthefuck they want with little regard for actual laws.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 137 points 3 days ago (30 children)

The EFF warned that the legal risk could push sites to either ban all known VPN IPs or mandate age verification for every visitor globally.

This is the goal.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 105 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

These aren't "age checks"...it's identity tracking.

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[–] fizzle@quokk.au 67 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm so weary of everything getting a little bit worse every day.

I'm sure we all used to be excited about the future of the internet but now it's just shit.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 99 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Remember when we told people "they'll make it illegal to use a VPN" and we got snarky replies like "it's not enforceable LOL".

The fuck it isn't. Traffic coming from a VPN? That's a paddlin', kiddo.

They're not even trying to masquerade it as… oh, yes, they're still trying to masquerade as a "think of the children!" measure. Those fuckers.

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[–] 10thGlyphix@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 30 points 3 days ago

lol Mormons have the NSA servers in Utah.

[–] disorderly@lemmy.world 141 points 3 days ago (4 children)

To date, the only countries that have made progress in blocking VPN traffic with some success are authoritarian regimes with ISP-level surveillance.

You know you're on to something when the only playbook you can find was written by the Chinese government.

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[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

The acceleration of the popularization of darknets continues, it's going to be a tough decade, but at the end of it, we'll all be more private and secure. Learn about Tor, I2P, and anonymous internet alternatives!

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[–] TyrionBean@lemmy.ml 45 points 3 days ago

This from the people who elected a notorious pedophile, "thinking" that he would find the real pedophiles.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 70 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Get a list of every dumbass politician who voted this through, and access their campaign websites through a VPN from a computer in Utah. Boom.

Self owned.

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[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 84 points 3 days ago

Age verification is a red line. I will not comply

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (13 children)

Wait a second... how can they enforce this legislation when a VPN is masking the user's location? How do they know a user using a VPN is from Utah?

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't the users they're trying to regulate the exact subsection of users that they don't have the ability to identify as being citizens of Utah?

Like if a user appears to be in Utah, then they're probably not using a vpn. And if the user appears to be from out of state, then they could be using a vpn, but also Utah law doesn't apply to those people because they're not from Utah (as far as they know)... So essentially this law can't actually apply to... anyone?

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[–] spacegoat@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago

The pedophile class has the audacity to dictate access to a utility under the guise of protecting the children

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