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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 36 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think they would've, they already had the market, and the attitude about privacy was very different back then

This also was before late-stage capital converted to endgame capitalism, back then they wanted to protect the cash cow. They cared about customer loyalty, because they cared about future revenue

Now? Companies are dismantling themselves for one more good quarter

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 3 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

Companies are dismantling themselves for one more good quarter

Any example of this?

[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 minutes ago
[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 77 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I kinda miss the days when computers and the Internet were so slow that you would notice if something else than what you were running was happening. Data logger calling home on my 28k modem would have been noticed right away. Trying to screenshot my pc screen every time I type or click, no way I could miss that. Scanning my HDD would lock it down so much I would have been stupid not to notice.

[–] jam12705@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Move out to a rural area were our speeds are mind-numbingly slow and you can still experience the phenomenon you describe. Only problem is now a days there isn't much you can do about it if forced to use Windows.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

You used to be able to tell what every process was doing on your computer. Nowadays there are so many processes running and they all have tons of child processes that you can't tell what is doing what.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 hour ago

Even on Linux where it's easy to find what any running service does, the are so many

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

And they have so much processing horsepower anymore, things that weren't conceivable just happen and there's no easy way to disable them, like how Macs run mediaanalysisd (which you can at least see, but disabling will break OS updates) that scrape every image file on your computer and OCR/categorize them and tag them, iPhones/iPads do too, and you can't even find or see the running process let alone kill it.

So every piece of media on your computer/phone just gets analyzed without your consent. Sure, maybe it is neat that you can search for a word that was in an image and that image comes up, but it would be nice if users of devices were allowed to choose what is/is not indexed.

Its like you're a passenger on your tools anymore, rather than the driver.

[–] jaennaet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

And media analysis is like the least creepy shit Apple does. They also analyse your social networks (based on who you interact with using Apple services), and the database where they store that shit has labels for eg. political affiliations etc. (can't remember off-hand which of the many many Apple spyware dbs it was. One of the sqlite databases under ~/Library in any case. Might have been the appropriately named IntelligencePlatform databases, but I'm too lazy to check right now)

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 27 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

I remember struggling with the idea that all companies care more about the bottom line than anything else. People are good and care about good things. How can companies who are made of people always cause problems? There must be at least one good company out there, right?

It's only after I spent some time in the world that I figured out that money really messes with things. It pressures companies to do whatever they can get away with. It separates the people who run the companies from the bad outcomes that company creates.

And at the end of the day everyone needs to make a choice. Live and participate in a system that causes problems, or die. I chose to live and I don't blame anyone else for choosing to live.

[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 minutes ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago)

People are good and care about good things.

We have trouble understanding what’s going on because the average person can’t comprehend the levels of greed that modern Wall St capitalism selects for.
Just like the average person cannot comprehend a million years, the average person can’t appreciate the level of avarice some of our rich and powerful operate at. Only a few of us have interacted with people that broken.
There a tons of good people and good businesses out there. They are currently victims to levels of avarice we can’t bring ourselves to admit exists.

The way laws and bylaws describe the jobs of CEOs and CFOs, the most qualified people to do those jobs are sociopaths. Empathy is practically a disqualifying personality trait.

[–] declaredreprimand@piefed.social 15 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Companies, especially larger ones, abstract away human responsibility and ethics from the decision-making process, making it easier for people to do bad things.

“We do this for the company!”

Plus, an individual’s ability to live being tied to the continued success of said company doesn’t help things either.

“If I speak out, I’m not a ‘team player’. And those people get fired.”

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

There's also diffusing responsibility across the organization. It's easy to achieve unethical things, when the individual's part of the job hardly seems "bad" at all.

[–] baronofclubs@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

At least in the US, companies have a legal fiduciary duty to protect their investors interests above all else.

[–] porksnort@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 hours ago

The love of money is the root of all evil.

Remember that one time Jesus lost his cool? He made a whip and went H.A.M. on some crypto bros in the temple.

So yeah….

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 29 points 11 hours ago

Microsoft sees Clippy everywhere: Oh they must really like him, let's make him our new AI mascot!

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I guess not many people remember that Microsoft was convicted of antitrust violations against Netscape (which effectively destroyed that command).

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 3 points 41 minutes ago

Microsoft nowadays is one of the evil companies. Microsoft back in the day was the evil company.

Thank you for sharing analognowhere content

[–] klangcola@reddthat.com 90 points 15 hours ago (15 children)

Using a mascot from big tech to protest against invasive big tech is tad confusing..

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 38 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Louis Rossmann is not the smartest cookie in the jar, but he is a cookie, at least.

[–] schema@lemmy.world 20 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree with most of his general sentiments, but I don't really like him. He always comes off as a tad arrogant to me.

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 20 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I like what he does and that he can rally people to a cause, but he consistently misses the mark.

In order to escape the corrupt bureaucracy of New York, he moved to... Texas.

I think he's a 'path of least resistance' kind of guy, not ideologically driven but rather "I don't wanna deal with it" driven. He has deemed that it is easier to move to Texas because the corruption there affects him less directly and more abstractly, and he chooses to front Right to Repair because it is easier to lobby and rally people than it is to work in his industry without his political influence.

He has a front row seat to the horrors of capitalism and, without missing a beat, says "I'm not a socialist, I'm a capitalist" because it's easier to be a shitlib than it is to believe in something bigger.

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That's just like Lemmy, ignoring years of hard work in pursuit of positive change because someone doesn't pass the right ideological purity test.

How many millions of people have you reached about the importance of consumer rights?

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 2 hours ago

You bitch at me for being an ideological puritan and then ask me if I'm pure enough by your standards. Did you miss the part where I said I like what he does?

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 29 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I also thought Louis's choice of Clippy was a bit odd, but the fact that there is a symbol people can rally around at all is more important than the symbol itself in many ways.

[–] klangcola@reddthat.com 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Fair enough, and clippy was indeed trying to be helpful, no matter how misguided xD

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

I think this is what Louis was going for. He doesn't want to ask for no more companies, just companies that make a product (doesn't even need to be a good one) where its sole purpose is to try (doesn't even need to succeed) and be useful to the consumer.

I think he hit his mark pretty well for the symbol, but whether or not I agree with his view on things is a different story entirely.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 20 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I thought the whole "clippy just wanted to help" meme was sarcastic since clippy's nagging was just as intrusive as the current AI being forced into everything, but it seems it is not.

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

clippy’s nagging was just as intrusive as the current AI being forced into everything

I thought the opposite was (part of) the point. Just right-click the assistant and tell it to go away, that's it. If all the AI garbage that's being integrated into Windows and many applications was that easy to get rid of I'd be considerably less annoyed by it. It was clumsy and misguided but not nearly as intrusive, also didn't require an account and an Internet connection.

[–] anzo@programming.dev 5 points 8 hours ago

Fwiw, I still think it's sarcastic.

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 10 points 12 hours ago

I remember Microsoft in the late nineties.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Stop trying to make clippy look bad! He is our symbol to fight against the enshitification now!

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

That’s an odd stance bc at the time it was introduced clippy was almost universally reviled and seen as an example of microsoft taking something that was fine (office 95) and making it objectively worse (office 97 introduced product activation, the stupid paper clip assistant, an arguably dumb UI refresh, and the most hostile part: a new version of the proprietary doc format that wouldn’t render correctly in word 95, forcing people to upgrade)

enshittification wasn’t a concept back then but microsoft certainly lived up to it time and time again

If anything this comic doesn’t make sense because no shit, microsoft started selling your data the nanosecond it became viable to do so. They were always evil. Whereas google at one point literally had a motto of “don’t be evil” in their guidelines or whatever, which fooled a lot of people in the 90s. they famously had to remove because once data collection was becoming obvious it was kind of silly to keep that bit around I suppose

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

Louis makes a lot of the points you're making in the video. He points to Clippy as an example of universal repulsion where we "didn't know how lucky we had it", versus the wolf dressed up in social media's clothing we have today.

I agree with a lot of what you said, but it's still worth watching the video. His overall aim is an honourable one and the choice of Clippy is pretty smart in light of the aims.

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It definitely is strange. But that doesn’t change that it has submerged as this symbol (just look up some new videos about clippy on YouTube). Many people probably do that because of counter-culture; clippy is liked because it had been hated for a long time and many (most?) people don’t know why.

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[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 7 points 14 hours ago

Clippy would've never!

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