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I took and passed a coding bootcamp at the eve of the first LLMs and generative AI. I had to do similar courses on my own to refresh my skills. I never found a coding job (story of my life!) But if I needed to I can do another course to refresh and start over stronger.
What are they so panicky about?
I feel like AI is a 5G language, in that we have moved on from writing code directly to writing md files to command the bots to write the code. It seems like a higher abstraction of the code. It does make you think less about the code directly, and more about the bigger picture, but you still need those skills to check the bots output.
Many people believe this, and it couldn’t be more wrong. It’s like saying that a product manager can code, if their tickets are detailed enough to give a general vision of a piece of software.
Implementation still matters. Context still matters. Vibe coded projects all follow these patterns where each change is a thousand lines of code out, two thousand in. And there’s a breaking point where reading and understanding these changes is not only unpractical, but also counterproductive.
But then, there’s the bigger question of language expressivity and determinism: even if LLMs could achieve a certain level of consistency of outputs given certain inputs, how do we make a natural language like English expressive enough, and more importantly, non ambiguous enough, to work like an actual programming language?
I think everyone’s development experience is different with these tools, we are not letting it just work the ticket blindly based off some prompt, we are having it do small tasks that would normally take a few minutes and are now done in seconds. We don’t allow these bots to commit code, or even the commit message, and the devs are still responsible at the end of the day for the code they commit.
That’s not at all what the previous message said. You cannot call it a “programming language” and then add all these caveats that programming languages don’t suffer from.
Don't know why you got downvoted, you're 100% right. It's just another layer of abstraction. Like a super high level non-deterministic level of abstraction.
If natural languages were just another level of abstraction, we would already have a successful English like programming language.
They do. And have been around for years. Theyre not successful because theure full of a lot of fluff. Because its language and not instructional.
If you mean the likes of COBOL, I’d say that’s hardly natural language.
It seems there a lot of people on Lemmy who dislike anything AI. I have no choice at my work so I have to make the best of it as I’m not leaving my job in this economy.
You will learn to like something because you’re being extorted to use it.
Sounds about right.
Yeah well welcome to work life in the US. It sucks but I’m surviving.
I’m fully able to code still, I just find it pointless when AI can do it for me. It’s like having to be somewhere, should I take the car or walk? Yeah walking might be good for me and the environment, but my car is so much faster and easier and I’ll definitely be on time. Who cares about the consequences of the future?
People lost their abilities to use slide rules too, to write assemblers, etc. The big companies monopolizing the tech are bad, but the tech is here to stay.
This.
For some reason they hate is really strong this time around but it's the exact same thing.
