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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 3 minutes ago

Move fast, break things.

Move slow, break things.

Don't move at all, break things.

Maybe I'm just bad at CSS

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 hours ago

Move fast, break society, and then buy entire governments while still being a dick.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 30 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

My company says it wants to move fast and break things but they really just want you to move fast and get mad when things break 🫠

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 hours ago

tbf, the breakage isn't supposed to be internal, but external. Old worn in structures, bureaucratic overhead, etc

Break things... Just not the things that affect me!

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 18 points 7 hours ago

"Everybody knows you can have it done well, fast, or cheap. Pick two."

"No! All three! All the time! Zero drawbacks! All profits and benefits! I am a very good and visionary boss. Have some room temperature Little Caesar's on the house and make me rich."

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 16 points 8 hours ago

move things, breakfast

Ah, sorry. Stupid race conditions.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 25 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Controversial opinion: I think software moving fast isn’t a good thing.

The more versions come out and the more focus there is on new features, the more half baked/abandoned the existing features become and there will be more vulnerabilities.

[–] bier@feddit.nl 11 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I probably shouldn't even be using youtube in the first place, but 5 min ago I found out youtube is now forcing videos with an AI translated voice. While at the same time not having an option to change the audio track or disable the feature.

This feels like a good example of pushing features most people don't want while not providing a normal way to disable it.

Thank God I use revanced and can spoof the client as IOS TV, this gives you the option do disable that crap.

Firefox (even mobile) has this addon "YT Anti Translate"

It's pretty bad you have to go this far just to watch a video with the actual voice it was released with...

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I changed the language back to the original and never had an interaction with the ai voice again

Do you not have the original audio track on the sound settings?

[–] bier@feddit.nl 2 points 51 minutes ago

Is this on the desktop chrome version, or the app? For me in the app there is no button or any way to change this. Same for the site in Firefox mobile. I was on my phone, so I don't know about the desktop version.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

I always respond with "Do you want to know if something broke? Then slow down and write tests"

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 48 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

The boss wanted me to find savings, so I started unplugging servers.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 13 hours ago

Isn't that what Elon did when he bought Twitter? Just randomly started unplugging shit?

[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 36 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

At work we have the following quote on the fridge

"A ceramics teacher announced on opening day that he was dividing the class into two groups. All those on the left side of the studio, he said, would be graded solely on the quantity of work they produced, all those on the right solely on its quality. His procedure was simple: on the final day of class he would bring in his bathroom scales and weigh the work of the “quantity” group: fifty pound of pots rated an “A”, forty pounds a “B”, and so on. Those being graded on “quality”, however, needed to produce only one pot — albeit a perfect one — to get an “A”. Well, came grading time and a curious fact emerged: the works of highest quality were all produced by the group being graded for quantity. It seems that while the “quantity” group was busily churning out piles of work – and learning from their mistakes — the “quality” group had sat theorizing about perfection, and in the end had little more to show for their efforts than grandiose theories and a pile of dead clay."

We are a software development company and my reply to this was basically that pot making hasn't changed in a long time, it's basically shaping and firing clay. Software development is comparatively new and has a vastly more dynamic landscape.

Also, the comparison is stupid because we don't write code, realize it was shit and write a new one. If we did business like that, we wouldn't be in business.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Why can't you be a team player? /s

Also, if you break the spirits of upper management, does that count?

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 7 points 7 hours ago

...and then add a sticky note below it:

"And then Einstein and Obama and Jobs were there and everybody clapped they were so shocked!"

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 9 hours ago

Also, the comparison is stupid because we don’t write code, realize it was shit and write a new one.

I mean, you shouldn't, but it sounds like the quote-poster is asking for that kind of boondoggle of a project.

[–] How_do_I_computah@lemmy.world 32 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

That's a really terrible anecdote. Real life quantity group would find ways to do less and less for the same reward. You would end up with fifty pounds of clay with a fist shape indention. Call it a pot and be done.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, I highly doubt it happened.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 hours ago

That quote sounds like an excuse for mass production worship a la brave new world, lol.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

It seems like such a little story that it would probably have an origin. It doesn't seem like the ceramics class, the people who created the story mentioned, ever existed. When asked, they said it was actually a photography class (from the professor Jerry Uelsman). I'd also argue that while that may hold true for learning skills (if it does) it doesn't necessarily hold true for performing skills. Also I'd say the main reason it could work, is that it got them to actually do something.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 84 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Hey Farva, what's the name of that design philosophy you like that's got all that goofy shit and no respect for established norms?

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 64 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Oh, you mean "move fast and break things"?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 26 points 14 hours ago

I live by "Move things and breakfast."

[–] eclipse@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

A litre of cola.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 55 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

It’s fine to do that if you’re pre-customer and you’re just dabbling with a new idea. Once you are ready to go public though you need to be stable and secure. The big problem is when people try to apply the same development philosophy between established software and pre-alpha software.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago

I agree. It heavily depends on the "things" you're breaking

If it's prod, that's bad

If it's your "fuck-around" branch, go for it

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 7 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Once you are ready to go public though you need to be stable and secure

Is that really true though? If you have a product people actually want, they'll use it regardless of bugs

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago

That’s sadly the opinion of a lot of tech companies.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That won't be true once your competition catches up to you and your bug-riddled product is pissing off customers, pushing them towards your competitors.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 11 hours ago

I think move fast and break things is more what you do before you get any real competition, or to get better than the competition in some areas by taking shortcuts in others.

You stop doing this when you're the big dog. Then you embrace the image of reliability and stability.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 12 points 12 hours ago
[–] lowspeedchase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Sorry bruce, these boys get a little crazy when they get that -CoPilot/Claude/Cursor- in them...

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Fun fact: some of those syrup bottles were filled with iced tea. Some. Not all.

[–] boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

I'll break all the shit if the board of investors are the ones paying for it.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 8 points 13 hours ago

Move intentionally and fix things.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 13 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Going slow doesn't mean you don't break things either. If you don't want to break things, you need test plans, logging and alerts

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 16 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Meta's philosophy has bit them before, but they at least do it better than anyone else. Other companies hear the Meta philosophy and their CEOs take that as an excuse to underfund development to the point of constant errors and shipping broken products.

They don't seem to realize that the reason that Meta can operate that way is because they are / were relentlessly focused on figuring out why things broke and then building out new products and systems to let them keep working fast and breaking things without their being a big downstream impact.

They have incredibly robust testing, monitoring, and alerting systems in place for all of their products, including newly developed ones. They found it faster to work in a giant monorepo and share code, but they actually monitored and recognized when it scaled too big and was slowing development down and had teams building out custom version control software and virtual disk utilities to fix this (Microsoft did similar with Git when they moved Windows development to it), and when Meta found that coding in raw JavaScript and HTML was creating scaling difficulties with their app, they built React. Same thing with their customized version of PHP on the backend.

I don't think Meta's impact on the world has been positive, and I don't think they should move fast and break things from a product design and ethics standpoint, but from an engineering standpoint, I do have respect for how they have executed that philosophy, and think that literally everyone else who tries it fails because they view it as a way of cutting short term costs, instead of as a way to identify and build and fix long term infrastructure.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The reason Meta could operate that way was because they were a platform for people sending funny texts to each other with no promises of security or privacy.

By the way, even they don't operate like that anymore.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm basing that on my experience contracting there ~ 1.5 years ago. They've added new control systems to address things like the GDPR, but they are all still designed to be fully productized parts of their developer framework so that developers don't have to think about them and can still move just as fast with product / feature development.

And while their product market had a little bit to do with it, they quite frankly have buggy software in production for less time than most major SAAS vendors or contract built systems.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

As you noticed, they have had a quality assurance structure for way longer than 2 years. They've had it for close to 20 years now.

When they used to have this philosophy, they did always have something broken on their site, and go out of air once in a while. And they did benefit greatly from the speed they got from it, for a while, until it started being harmful.

[–] jaark@infosec.pub 6 points 14 hours ago

I much prefer "Move slowly and fix things" (I so wish I had thought of that myself but can't remember where I saw it).

[–] lockhart@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago

"Say that again and I'll move fast to break your face"

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I live in a neighborhood where every fucking self driving car is tested. It's taken minutes off my life to be polite about my experiences