How dare you show me a sprint board outside of work hours. XD
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2 days ago I was talking with a friend about starting to vibe code something similar to ideon, this is freaking great! And made by an actual human dev!
I'll try it as soon as I can. Is it easy to selfhost? I have a server at home and I want to organize my scripts, projects, ideas, etc.
There is a docker compose file you can use, no further setup required
Yep! One command. It just pulls a single docker image, asks for a few env vars, then starts the app :D
As a feedback: I would prefer that you also link to the docker compose file in the readme. I don’t necessarily want to pipe a script directly into the shell… (it is also way less universal than the compose file)
Oh mb never thought of that, thanks, I will
Seems cool! I've been looking for something like this. Especially if it can be used as a collaborative knowledge management tool for team knowledge bases.
looks like something NodeRed can do, so what's the difference in application of this instead of NodeRed?
node-red is a flow engine, you wire up automations and walk away. ideon is a workspace you actually live in: git, notes, files, tasks, all on a spatial canvas your team navigates together :)
ahh, that makes sense. it's a visual representation of the sub-infra for your projects. infrastructure that helps you build your project.
cool! thanks for sharing!
I can confirm the dev is great. I had two feature requests and they did a great job communicating and then implementing those requests.
Thank you!
Looks very interesting! Two questions:
From a quick look around in the repo, I couldn't find which CRDT lib you're using. Which one are you using? I've used yjs in the past but getting the document out of yjs into a db was a pain.
Second: we're also building a tool that connects a lot of information because research tools are very fragmented as well. What is your philosophy on how to connect the information while still keeping things structured and understandable? We've found that e.g. node networks are incredibly hard to understand when the data and logic behind them gets complex. We also found that when users are not restricted in their information entering (e.g. a markdown file), most will not enforce their own structure and it gets disorganised quickly. Did you try to solve that or is it more the users problem?
yjs too! the trick that worked for me was just not round-tripping yjs -> json -> db on every update, canvas state lives in leveldb as raw binary (y-leveldb), the relational db is only used to seed it when the doc is empty. after that leveldb takes over. y-indexeddb on the client for offline, works pretty well actually
on your second question yeah same struggle lol. connections are loose by default, to keep it manageable folders have a single-parent rule, no reverse refs, collapsing hides the whole subtree. frames are there too but purely visual. for kanban task relationships i just moved them out of the canvas entirely and stored them in the yjs content object, otherwise the graph gets unreadable fast
auto clustering and edge bundling are still missing tbh, when the graph grows it gets messy and right now the answer is just "use folders and frames", not super satisfying
the freeform vs structure thing is something i keep going back and forth on, leaning toward soft constraints that nudge rather than block. curious what you're doing on that front!
nice that yjs worked for you :)
We're blocking where custom options don't make sense - which are a few since context is often constrained in our domain - but will probably enable users to do their own stuff with plugins. That way, the platform hopefully stays usable but extendable..
Looks neat, but what's your policy on AI. This post already read like it's AI generated, so that worries me about the development of the project.
No AI, just Google Translate. I'm French, I write in my language and translate. Probably why it reads too clean :)
Some parts read very "AI" like the "still self-hosted still-open source" part.
Definitely didn't mean to accuse you of anything, just wary of the many AI projects around these days.
So definitely my bad, I acted a bit too quick!
No worries you we're right, I wouldn't have noticed that on my own lol, I'll keep it in mind
Being skeptical is fine, being accusatory with no proof is a jerk move.
Well in his defense, that language was sorta AI generated. Very glad the project isn’t. This looks like something I’m very interested in.
Thanks, glad that you like it !